So I accidently combined the three split with the two split...

[Citenex]

I did a DC blast back in 2011 and it was great but after re-reading everything about it, I realized I did it kind of wrong. (or did I? Read on!1!1!!)

What I did was the two way split, but completing the full circuit in 5 days instead of the usual 8. So it was like this:

Monday: Chest/Shoulder/Tricep/Back Width/Back Thickness
Tuesday: Bicep/Forearm/Calves/Hamstring/Quad
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Same as Monday
Friday: Same as Tuesday
Sat: Off
Sun: Off

Yeah... but the thing is I continually went up on everything and only had to change up 1 or 2 exercises because I didn't beat the logbook for them.

Is this still considered DC and does anyone else do it this way?

[Lock it Up]

I did a DC blast back in 2011 and it was great but after re-reading everything about it, I realized I did it kind of wrong. (or did I? Read on!1!1!!)

What I did was the two way split, but completing the full circuit in 5 days instead of the usual 8. So it was like this:

Monday: Chest/Shoulder/Tricep/Back Width/Back Thickness
Tuesday: Bicep/Forearm/Calves/Hamstring/Quad
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Same as Monday
Friday: Same as Tuesday
Sat: Off
Sun: Off

Yeah... but the thing is I continually went up on everything and only had to change up 1 or 2 exercises because I didn't beat the logbook for them.

Is this still considered DC and does anyone else do it this way?

What kind of weight are you pushing doing that? How long was your blast? Did you do just one? How much progression did you see? I feel like my body would tear apart at the seems doing quad widows twice a week, with such short breaks, every week.

No, that's not DC....it's a recipe for you having a short blast, that's for sure.

[thedunhill225]

You progressed, got bigger, grew stronger... Who cares what its called?

[Citenex]

What kind of weight are you pushing doing that? How long was your blast? Did you do just one? How much progression did you see? I feel like my body would tear apart at the seems doing quad widows twice a week, with such short breaks, every week.

No, that's not DC....it's a recipe for you having a short blast, that's for sure.

Not real crazy heavy but it did grow into some decent weight. The blast lasted 7 - 8 weeks, I lost one of log papers lol. I started conservative with my weights and I only did one blast(it was my very first).

my beginning BW was 185 and ended at 200lbs.
Here were some of the big increases:

Decline BB Bench press: 205x20RP to 315x12RP
DB Shoulder Press: 60 x 24RP to 80 X 24RP
Squat: 315 x 8ss to 455 x 4ss
195 x 22ss to 335 x 16ss

A family member grew ill and that caused me to miss a month of lifting and had me barely eating 1 - 2k cals a day, so I jumped on a powerlifting routine to get my strength back up there, and now I want to focus on mass again.

You progressed, got bigger, grew stronger... Who cares what its called?

Yeah, good point, it worked for me, I was just second-guessing myself or something. I'll do it till it stops working, thanks!! :2guns:

[homonunculus]

That was an option that Dante played with in the past, but the frequency was too much for most guys to maintain, blast after blast.

Did you also use VERY slow reps initially with this blast?.. (Did your rep tempo change over the course off the two months?...)

Even with that frequency, if you rotated three exercises for each muscle group, you'd have trained each exercise about 5 - 6 times, so you'd be making tremendous jumps each workout.

Were you coming off a lay-off?...

How did those weights at the end the blast compare to your previous PR's?...

-Scott

[trucelt]

I just finished my first blast after coming off an injury-caused layoff and I did something similar:
M- c/s/t/b
W-b/f/c/h/q
F-same as Mon
S-same as Wed

Lucky I was small and weak after my layoff, If I was moving big weights this split wouldnt have worked, my blast went 8 weeks. Even after 8 weeks I felt beat up and next blast will be the standard m/w/f......btw this is how I planned it, knowing after a layoff. I could get away with it. Longterm its a recipe for disaster

[TLopez]

Trucelt,

You gotta change that avatar. It's so difficult to see your posts now and look at that malt liquor bottle and take you seriously, even though I know you are a well versed vet. LOL!

[trucelt]

this avatar was a "gift" from Sammich

[TLopez]

this avatar was a "gift" from Sammich

I figured that was what it was.

[dcwannabee]

Maybe I have misunderstood something, but the progression You made cant be right unless You were coming back after a layoff.

[Adam2433]

You progressed, got bigger, grew stronger... Who cares what its called?

It matters because it is a pace he is unlikely to be able to keep and will most likely result in quick plateaus or overtraining.

When a person sets out to follow a given plan be it in the gym, working on a car, etc the name of that plan may not be important but following the plan as laid out IS important. In this case he is not following the plan as he thought.

I get your "just lift heavy things" ideology but sometimes that is an oversimplification and overlooks some important things. Plus, people have worked hard here to ensure the program isn't bastardized.

[thedunhill225]

It matters because it is a pace he is unlikely to be able to keep and will most likely result in quick plateaus or overtraining.

When a person sets out to follow a given plan be it in the gym, working on a car, etc the name of that plan may not be important but following the plan as laid out IS important. In this case he is not following the plan as he thought.

I get your "just lift heavy things" ideology but sometimes that is an oversimplification and overlooks some important things. Plus, people have worked hard here to ensure the program isn't bastardized.

I have said over and over that if you don't do the program as Dante lays it out you should not call it DC. That was part of my point, he did not train DC but so what? Many people train body parts twice a week and grow...I don't think many can REALLY bust their ass and train a body part twice a week but you can can train hard. The way he trained is pretty similar to what I would recommend for a noob thinking about training with any HIT program.

I think some people are losing site of one important thing... He grew and .progressed! He probably should not be saying "I train DC" but if he grew and got stronger at the rate he stated then isn't that what matters? Can he grow rapidly at that frequency again? I don't know but if I were him I would try....and understand that if my progress halts that I have to reduce frequency.

As far as over simplifying things... I would MUCH prefer to err on that side BUT what if its NOT an over simplification? What if all that really matters is putting the body under tension, creating a desire for the body to protect itself and letting it rest enough to repair itself? What if it really IS that simple? Would kinda annoy, dissapoint, anger, etc....A lot of people. I mean how much time and effort would that mean that so many people waste?

Peace

[Adam2433]

You totally missed my point. Nevermind.

[thedunhill225]

Who don't get what??

[Citenex]

That was an option that Dante played with in the past, but the frequency was too much for most guys to maintain, blast after blast.

Did you also use VERY slow reps initially with this blast?.. (Did your rep tempo change over the course off the two months?...)

Even with that frequency, if you rotated three exercises for each muscle group, you'd have trained each exercise about 5 - 6 times, so you'd be making tremendous jumps each workout.

Were you coming off a lay-off?...

How did those weights at the end the blast compare to your previous PR's?...

-Scott

Yea the tempo did change slightly, probably by 1 or 2 seconds and I was doing an extreme volume over training workout before I started DC. I haven't done a lot of the exercises that I put in for my blast, like I never decline benched, maybe 2 or 3 times ever before I started the blast. Some of the exercises I was doing in the blast, I hadn't done in months.

I was thinking about it some more and my job back then consisted of sitting on my ass for 8 hours typing into a computer or browsing the web. I brought my protein shakes and ate rice/beef every day for lunch while sitting there being a zombie. That probably helped a ton with my recuperation. Now I am out in the field doing construction, so I'll see how I feel while working out and if I feel too drained I'll switch over to real DC training.