Hey fellas. I've been lifting for 10 years on and off. Before learning the dangers of bodybuildier style flat benchpress, I used to do it all the time. About 6 years ago I was flat benchpressing and I felt a sharp pain in the area where my upper bicep tendon, front delt and I'm guessing the pec tendon all meet.
Question on my injury. Is it considered a pec injury or a upper bicep tendon/front delt tie in injury???
What I'm trying to figure out is if the injury is considered a pec injury or a bicep tendon/front delt injury. I'm not sure if it's considered to be a pec delt tie in injury because the pain is right where the upper bicep tendon conncects to the front delt which I'm guessing is still considered the chest delt tie in area.
If I'm not mistaking the pec tendon actually runs all the way up and inserts into the front delt and upper bicep tie in area.
Even though the injury is at the upper bicep tendon/front delt tie in area, I don't have any pain when doing bicep work or shoulder work. I can do heavy dumbell shoulder presses all day and heavy bicep work all day with no pain or aggrivation to the injury.
The injury only gets aggrivated when I do chest work with elbows flare past 45 degrees with barbell presses or dumbell presses. The injury came from flat benchpress in the first place 6 years ago. This is why I'm thinking my injury is pec related.
This injury comes and goes. It has come back now even though I stopped flat benching years ago. My main lift for chest has been incline benchpresses. However even incline benchpress has been agrivating the injury.
What I'm finding is the higher the incline on the bench, the less aggrivation I feel in the injuried area. Like I said up above. I can do high 60 degree incline benchpresses and shoulder presses all day with no pain in the area. It's only when I do lower incline benchpress and flat pressing movements with my elbows flared above 45 degrees where the injury gets hammered.
I was talking to a guy at my gym about my problem and he told me he had the same problem but then started doing chest work with his elbows tucked in to protect his pec delt tie in area and still hit his pecs. Basically power lifting style benchpress and other chest work with elbows tucked to the sides.
I have been doing PL style chest work with elbows tucked in for a month now I'm and happy to report no pec, delt, bicep tendon tie pain but now the problem is I don't fill the tension in my pecs anymore. Doing PL style form for chest work has actually been working my ticeps more and causing them to hit failure before my pecs do. I'm actually way stronger when pressing with my elbows more flared out and I feel the pecs working way more even though I'm aware that chest work with the elbows flared out is asking for further injury.
I'm trying to figure out why my triceps keeping taking most of the load when doing all of my pressing movements with my elbows tucked.
Most guys I see in the gym with huge impressive wide armored looking pecs, use the elbows flared out bodybuilding style form on flat and incline press movements. I even see most bodybuilders flat bench and incline bench with the traditional arms flared out style with awsome pecs. The only bodybuiders I've seen create huge awesome pecs using the PL style pressing method with elbows tucked in is (Branch Warren) and (Johnnie Jackson).
There's a few power lifters in my gym and they do all there chest work using the elbows tucked in method. They are strong as hell and one of them reps 495LBS like child's play. However, I've seen them with there shirts off and they all have poor pec develpment with huge front delts and huge triceps.
Like I've said before. I have adopted the PL style method with all pressing movements to protect my pec, delt, upper bicep tie in injury but I'm not feeling the tension in my pecs like I use to feel when I use to do all pressing work bodybuilding style. Instead I feel the tenison in my triceps with the PL method.
So I'm looking for advice on how to remedy my triceps taking over. Keeping the elbows tucked in when doing chest work is definitely a great way to work around my injury but my damn triceps take the brount of the load, leaving my pecs out of the equation. When ever I press with dumbells or barbells with elbows tucked in I feel like i'm doing close grip presses for triceps instead of pec work and I can't do any chest fly movements with injury. I think this is why I see most power lifters with weak pec develpment but with huge front delts and huge triceps.
Question on my injury. Is it considered a pec injury or a upper bicep tendon/front delt tie in injury???
What I'm trying to figure out is if the injury is considered a pec injury or a bicep tendon/front delt injury. I'm not sure if it's considered to be a pec delt tie in injury because the pain is right where the upper bicep tendon conncects to the front delt which I'm guessing is still considered the chest delt tie in area.
If I'm not mistaking the pec tendon actually runs all the way up and inserts into the front delt and upper bicep tie in area.
Even though the injury is at the upper bicep tendon/front delt tie in area, I don't have any pain when doing bicep work or shoulder work. I can do heavy dumbell shoulder presses all day and heavy bicep work all day with no pain or aggrivation to the injury.
The injury only gets aggrivated when I do chest work with elbows flare past 45 degrees with barbell presses or dumbell presses. The injury came from flat benchpress in the first place 6 years ago. This is why I'm thinking my injury is pec related.
This injury comes and goes. It has come back now even though I stopped flat benching years ago. My main lift for chest has been incline benchpresses. However even incline benchpress has been agrivating the injury.
What I'm finding is the higher the incline on the bench, the less aggrivation I feel in the injuried area. Like I said up above. I can do high 60 degree incline benchpresses and shoulder presses all day with no pain in the area. It's only when I do lower incline benchpress and flat pressing movements with my elbows flared above 45 degrees where the injury gets hammered.
I was talking to a guy at my gym about my problem and he told me he had the same problem but then started doing chest work with his elbows tucked in to protect his pec delt tie in area and still hit his pecs. Basically power lifting style benchpress and other chest work with elbows tucked to the sides.
I have been doing PL style chest work with elbows tucked in for a month now I'm and happy to report no pec, delt, bicep tendon tie pain but now the problem is I don't fill the tension in my pecs anymore. Doing PL style form for chest work has actually been working my ticeps more and causing them to hit failure before my pecs do. I'm actually way stronger when pressing with my elbows more flared out and I feel the pecs working way more even though I'm aware that chest work with the elbows flared out is asking for further injury.
I'm trying to figure out why my triceps keeping taking most of the load when doing all of my pressing movements with my elbows tucked.
Most guys I see in the gym with huge impressive wide armored looking pecs, use the elbows flared out bodybuilding style form on flat and incline press movements. I even see most bodybuilders flat bench and incline bench with the traditional arms flared out style with awsome pecs. The only bodybuiders I've seen create huge awesome pecs using the PL style pressing method with elbows tucked in is (Branch Warren) and (Johnnie Jackson).
There's a few power lifters in my gym and they do all there chest work using the elbows tucked in method. They are strong as hell and one of them reps 495LBS like child's play. However, I've seen them with there shirts off and they all have poor pec develpment with huge front delts and huge triceps.
Like I've said before. I have adopted the PL style method with all pressing movements to protect my pec, delt, upper bicep tie in injury but I'm not feeling the tension in my pecs like I use to feel when I use to do all pressing work bodybuilding style. Instead I feel the tenison in my triceps with the PL method.
So I'm looking for advice on how to remedy my triceps taking over. Keeping the elbows tucked in when doing chest work is definitely a great way to work around my injury but my damn triceps take the brount of the load, leaving my pecs out of the equation. When ever I press with dumbells or barbells with elbows tucked in I feel like i'm doing close grip presses for triceps instead of pec work and I can't do any chest fly movements with injury. I think this is why I see most power lifters with weak pec develpment but with huge front delts and huge triceps.
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