alternative DC split?

[tight]

What do you guys think of this training split? the reason i've paired muscle groups like this is because i put deadlifts and legs together, since deadlifts work a lot of lowerback, glutes and hammies. tell me what you guys think.

Day one:

-chest-one exercise
-shoulders-one exercise
-triceps-one exercise
-biceps-one exercise

>Day two:
-quad-one exercise
-hammies-one exercise
-back width- one exercise
-back thickness-one exercise

[Massive G]

No calves?....Looks like a CF to me.....

[bigp3]

I know I could not do deads and squats balls out on the same day,,,, no way no how

[USMuscle9403]

Hell no bigp. Yea, looks like a CF to me too. Dante has it paired up a certain way for a reason. Do it if you want, but just don't call it DC training.

[tight]

whats a CF? i understand now that the muscles are paired that way for a reason. thanx for the replys

[In-Human]

whats a CF? i understand now that the muscles are paired that way for a reason. thanx for the replys

You just e-mailed me at cyber, yes, and CF means "cluster fuck", so if want to train on this program you must follow the way its laid out...

[USMuscle9403]

tight, OK lemme explain this a little better because we may have come off a little rude. The absolute worst thing you can do is change something here or there because you feel like it. Now there are certainly ways that you can cahnge some things and you'll read about those eventually, but for right now let's just keep it the way it is. You'll see people on other boards bitching about how DC doesn't work or whatever, and that they 'followed it to a T' yet when you ask them what they did it doesn't even look like DC training.

'Oh I switched this and this up because I didn't feel like that, blah blah blah, yada yada yada'. That's the recipe for failure on this program.

[tight]

thanx for the advice USmuscle, and everybody else. i didn't mean to come screw with the laid out program. you guys seem to take what i put up really personal so i apologize if i pissed anybody off. and yes, In-Human, i did email you, i just wanted to know what everyone else thought of my "adjusted program", guess its a no go.

[SweatMachine]

personallyI have trouble hitting shoulders and chest together, due to an old AC injury.
I can do it but my shoulders dont get the work they desreve

[lionel]

you guys seem to take what i put up really personal so i apologize if i pissed anybody off. and yes

lololol!!

CF.. haha! Its the F in CF that seemed a lil rude huh tight? Guess these guys haven't been properly disciplined. But its all cool tight, if you're real interested, just hang around here..

[ctgblue]

personallyI have trouble hitting shoulders and chest together, due to an old AC injury.
I can do it but my shoulders dont get the work they desreve

I was concerned about the same thing, but since I've gone to the incline smith and military smith as the only exercises, I am getting stronger, bigger, and no shoulder problems.
I can even do close grips again, yeehah!!!

[In-Human]

personallyI have trouble hitting shoulders and chest together, due to an old AC injury.
I can do it but my shoulders dont get the work they desreve

I have 90 year old rotators so I hit chest/tri/shoulder, so I get to have a bit of a rest before blasting my shoulders instead of right after chest...

[huskerfoos]

Question?

Ok guys. I understand the whole reasoning on why you should not adjust the schedule. I am assuming you mean throwing different exercises on different days etc. BUT, does it make a difference if you mix the order of exercises per day up? You guys post to do Chest, Shoulders, Tris, BW, and BT. Obviously I would do the backs together, but does it matter on the rest? You guys understand me? I have been fooling with the training in the midst of my regular wourkouts, to see if it is something I might want to pursue. I even PMed a respected MOD here and he he quick and respectful to respond to me, and I appreciated that greatly. I just want to make sure I can get everything I can out of this if I am going to do it all out. Thanks a ton.

JJ

[ChrisThePirate]

Ok guys. I understand the whole reasoning on why you should not adjust the schedule. I am assuming you mean throwing different exercises on different days etc. BUT, does it make a difference if you mix the order of exercises per day up? You guys post to do Chest, Shoulders, Tris, BW, and BT. Obviously I would do the backs together, but does it matter on the rest? You guys understand me? I have been fooling with the training in the midst of my regular wourkouts, to see if it is something I might want to pursue. I even PMed a respected MOD here and he he quick and respectful to respond to me, and I appreciated that greatly. I just want to make sure I can get everything I can out of this if I am going to do it all out. Thanks a ton.

JJ

when i started dc and i had a small question like this, i wouldnt feel like asking so i would just say to myself, "it cant hurt to do it how he wrote it" and just followed how it was written; its worked so far

[PTAaron]

I am by no means an expert on this program - but the order they are presented in make a lot of sense...
If you do shoulders or tris before chest, you will not be able to do chest to the fullest potential - and the chest exercise will give your shoulders a secondary workout that will help you warm up. Back makes sense last because something like deadlifts or rack deads done with the kind of intensity the program requires will leave you extremely drained - I know I couldn't possibly do chest or anything else after my set of rack deads.
For the biceps/leg day ... Forearms are only logical after biceps - you wouldn't get a bicep workout if you maximally fatigued your forearms first. Calves, Hams, Quads in that order makes logical sense for most exercises - you may see that some people do hams last when they are doing certain exercises - but for the most part you calves are a smaller group, the calf workout is very difficult - but it will not 'cripple you' for the rest of the workout. Your hamstring exercise will be very difficult - but will not 'cripple you'. Your quad exercise - no matter what you choose WILL leave you dead on the floor after your set of 20 ... if you do it right.
So basically what I am saying is that the entire layout makes perfect sense if you follow it the way it is intended. If you go half-ass on your quad movements and could still do calves and hams afterward - you aren't doing it right!