Is honey okay postworkout?

[terence]

I've been using honey for a while now,mainly because by mistake i bought a gigantic tub of it a while ago and i ran out of dextrose.I heard honey contains a lot of antioxidants and it's also pretty high GI.What do you guys say?

[tpc]

i answered this question on this board a few months back, try doing a search and you should find it. i'll look...

d

[terence]

thanks tpc..i found it.Shit,now what do I do with that huge tub of honey?

When would honey be okay to consume? I used to take it with my oats in the morning.

[terence]

Another thing,is there even ANY benefits to using honey post workout at all? Anti-oxidants...no? Coz I'm thinking of maybe using 1 tablespoon of honey with dextrose post workout just so I can try to finish up my tub of honey.

[Egill]

Read this,.... I don't think honey should be any proplem:


Research Shows Honey Increases Recuperation After Workouts.

by Paul Delia
Founder and President, AST Sports Science

research study recently presented at the annual National Strength and Conditioning Association meeting strongly suggests that combining honey with a protein supplement after training may boost post-workout recuperation and favor better blood sugar maintenance after exercise.
Protein supplements are widely used to increase one's intake of dietary protein. Protein need increases among individuals engaged in intense activities such as weight training, running, step aerobics and many competitive sports. Previous studies have shown that a combination of carbohydrates and protein supplement has been shown in to boost muscle energy recuperation and may favor better response to training. "We were pleased to find that powdered honey promoted favorable changes in post-exercise markers of metabolism equal to that of the current standard, maltodextrin," says Dr. Richard Kreider, lead investigator of the study and Director of the Exercise and Sport Nutrition Laboratory at the University of Memphis. "We also found that the group receiving honey as the carbohydrate source did not display the typical drop in blood sugar 60 minutes after taking the other forms of carbohydrates. These findings support our previous study on honey."

The current study involved a group of 39 weight-trained athletes both male and female. Subjects underwent an intensive weight-lifting workout and then immediately consumed a protein supplement blended with sugar, maltodextrin, or honey as the carbohydrate source. Only the honey group maintained optimal blood sugar levels throughout the two hours following the workout. Additionally, subjects taking honey showed favorable changes in a hormone ratio that indicates a positive muscle recuperative state. "Our data suggest that honey functions well in all of the aspects associated with post-workout recuperation and energy repletion. In addition, honey appears to stand out as perhaps even a better source of carbohydrate to ingest with post-workout protein supplements," added Dr. Kreider. "In addition to promoting muscle recuperation and glycogen (carbohydrates stored in muscle) restoration, honey-protein combinations also seem well suited to sustain favorable blood sugar concentrations after training."

What's in honey that imparts these important effects? How would honey work as a transporter for creatine? These are some questions that could further the research into this area of increasing the results you get with weight training.

I would say this research is quite compelling and would certainly suggest adding and ounce of honey to your post workout protein supplement.

[Ken Skip Hill]

Poor it on your wife and....

Oh, forget it.

Skip

[The Munster]

Poor it on your wife and....

Oh, forget it.

Skip

[USMuscle9403]

Ugh, have you guys ever actually tried it? It SOUNDS romantic and fun...but I never found it to be Just sticky, LOL

[tpc]

"We were pleased to find that powdered honey promoted favorable changes in post-exercise markers of metabolism equal to that of the current standard, maltodextrin,"

this above statement is the reason, why this whole article is totally incorrect. the author and researchers, certainly did not review or preform this "study" properly. honey and powdered honey are way to different compounds. the writer of this article incorrectly refers powdered honey as real liquid honey. here are the reasons why:

liquid honey is just that...honey. but powdered honey is sometimes referered to as sucanant, a powder extracted from natural kane sugar (it is not even close to honey chemically, but many label or call sucanant powdered honey), or actual real powdered honey is only a small portion real honey. in the process of turning liquid honey into a powder, they have to spray dry the liquid mass with usually maltodextrin (99% of the time) or with a mix of maltodextrin and fructose.

so ultimatly this results from this study are incorrect. when they refer to the subject consuming 100% honey, it actually is not all honey it is a mix of honey and maltodextrin (and/or fructose). throwing malt and/or fructose into the mix can greatly throw off results, which i feel they have in this study.

doug

[SweatMachine]

Put It On Ebay!!!!!

[USMuscle9403]

So Doug, I'm guessing from what you're saying that it IS okay to use powdered honey post workout since it's mostly malto? And that the study is flawed just because they're implying that powdered honey (mostly malto) is OK post workout just like regular honey would be?

[Egill]

Originally Posted by Egill
"We were pleased to find that powdered honey promoted favorable changes in post-exercise markers of metabolism equal to that of the current standard, maltodextrin,"

tpc:
this above statement is the reason, why this whole article is totally incorrect. the author and researchers, certainly did not review or preform this "study" properly. honey and powdered honey are way to different compounds

good point, I didn't know that.

[USMuscle9403]

That's why I hate relying on studies

[terence]

So what i'm getting is that honey is worthless post workout and I should either throw it away,sell it on ebay or pour it on a chick and do kinky stuff with it? God damn it...well it was cheap honey but it's still like 2 gallons of it!

[speedR]

this above statement is the reason, why this whole article is totally incorrect. the author and researchers, certainly did not review or preform this "study" properly. honey and powdered honey are way to different compounds. the writer of this article incorrectly refers powdered honey as real liquid honey. here are the reasons why:

liquid honey is just that...honey. but powdered honey is sometimes referered to as sucanant, a powder extracted from natural kane sugar (it is not even close to honey chemically, but many label or call sucanant powdered honey), or actual real powdered honey is only a small portion real honey. in the process of turning liquid honey into a powder, they have to spray dry the liquid mass with usually maltodextrin (99% of the time) or with a mix of maltodextrin and fructose.

so ultimatly this results from this study are incorrect. when they refer to the subject consuming 100% honey, it actually is not all honey it is a mix of honey and maltodextrin (and/or fructose). throwing malt and/or fructose into the mix can greatly throw off results, which i feel they have in this study.

doug

Geez what a show-off. I'm thinking of using bacon post-workout could you give me a run down on why this might be bad