running out of shoulder exercises

[Benj]

I'm starting to run out of shoulder exercises. I'm currently doing the following:

Seated Military - to the front
Seated DB Press
Smithe Machine Military - to the front

With the weight I'm using it's increasingly becoming impractical to RP using DBs, so I'm thinking of taking out the seated DB press and replacing it with another exercise, plus I'm not improving too much on the DBs anymore. I also would not want the behind the back presses as I have weak rotator cuffs. Are side laterals a good exercise?

[USMuscle9403]

Are there no decent shoulder machines that you have?

Side laterals aren't the worst thing in the world, if you like 'em do 'em

[The Munster]

Are there no decent shoulder machines that you have?

:iagree:

Hammer strength? Cybex? Paramount? No good shoulder machines in the gym?

[Egill]

In my opinion side laterals are basically a band-aid for shoulder exercises, they will never replace the compound movement needed for great delt development.

I will share my own story, I tried doing lateral raises on the DC program as a band-aid thing and what happened? I found out I plateaud faster than any other shoulder pressing movement, is not an easy workout to keep progressing trust me.

Yeah, in most cases the compound movements are superior although side laterals might work well for a few. I have used them in DC training and actually progressed nicely with them but it's hard to say how much that contributed to shoulder growth for me?

[BenGrowing]

Maybe barbell or cable upright rows?....I've used barbell upright rows and have seen great progress with the poundages. Not sure how others feel about this exercise...

[USMuscle9403]

Ugh, upright rows make me gag. Seriously though, those are bad for your rotators.

[JnJ23]

What about hammer style db presses

[Massive G]

Presses Presses Presses...get It?

[Lifter]

I totally agree USMuscle9403, I gave upright rows a wide birth for 27 years but then gave in and did them for a couple of months mid-year which is when I messed my shoulders up! It is like my right delt is out of alignment now, and the worse part is in the shower when I wash my back and it clicks causing a shooting pain through my neck! I wish I had gone with logic and ignored curiosity. No doubt presses are by far the safest delt exercise.

[PTAaron]

Anyone use hanging clean-press or anything like that for shoulders? I was going to start a thread asking about that, but this seems like a good enough place...
Seems like it would fit the compoud movement category, but it could be hard to rest/pause safely...

[ambiguous]

Hello. (This is King-Of-TheLoad writing, I`m sitting at my brothers (Ambigious`) computer right now, so this is not him!) ...... Lol

Have you tried standing pushpresses to the front? I think that`s a great shoulder exercise. Why don`t you give it a try, recommended.

Use a barbell. Bend your knees when you are in bottom/starting position, and cheat/help the barbell on its way over your head, by straightning out you legs as you push. Did that make any sense? (A little hard to explain in english for a norwegian...lol)

[hyp3r3xt3nsion]

1) get some powerhooks

2) suck it up (unless you're pressing like 160+pders, i don't see how it's "impracticle"

3) upright row = shoulder impingment = bad.

[Massive G]

we've had the Powerhooks debate before.I have a pair in my garage...Used them once.I liked the idea of them but in practise they don't work very well IMO

[b_chest31]

Try Behind the neck presses on the smythe.

Hyper-Dumbbells just don't work with the weight jumps we have in a short amount of time. The first RP is easy it's the 2nd and 3rd that's pretty much impossible.

[bigp3]

I know DC does not like laterals or at least I recall he doesn't but I personally love them. I agree with you bro doing DB presses is straight out asking for it with the rest pauses. All it takes is one slip and you are screwed.