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    Their kidneys...this is the best stuff I have ever tried so far.
    PURE 100% Cranberry juice. I used to make my own cranberry juice from fresh cranberries and this stuff tastes just as putrid-and that is a GOOD thing.
    http://www.knudsenjuices.com/produc...tprod.asp?ID=17

    It's about $6 a bottle but believe me you'd better dilute it. This isn't that girlie Ocean Spray sipping cranberry juice that contain 5% juice and 95% sugar.
    Personally I add 1/2 Juice to 1/2 diet lemon lime soda and boom. If you drink it straight it's like battery acid...
    Good shit for us who eat 6-800 grams of protein a day.
    They have a store locator for all areas on the web site.
    http://www.knudsenjuices.com/buy/index.html
    I think it's important to always clean out I do on my cruise periods. And NO not just AAS for non naturals as I haven't cycled in almost 6 months.
    I always clean out of the pills all the vitamins and other extras I take so the CB juice certainly helps do that.
    It gives me a break from popping all those vitamins a day..the only thing I pop then is Milk Thistle Liv-52 and a couple more liver flush herbs I take and blend on my own from BAC like Picroliv, Pine bark extract, and TMG Tri-Methyl Glycine.

    My liver and kidneys are slightly stressed from the one aspirin and celebrex I take a day as well as a little bit of stress from high protein and the resulting tissue breakdown during training.
    This I feel sets me up for new growth on my next blast.
    Last edited by Massive G; 10-03-2004, 11:15 AM.
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  • #2
    How much of it do you drink a day during your cruising Massive?

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    • #3
      2 4 oz servings....so 8 oz a day.
      I got some PH paper but it won't work as I wanted to test the acidity of it..I could take it to work and use the PH meter but would get fired for staining the meter "red". LOL
      I'd bet my ass it is at least a 5 on the PH scale.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by RaulJimenez
        sounds like a good idea G, I've been using milk thistle all long to clean my urinary tract too. Cranberry juice is a good thing as long as you don't overuse it, fructose is fructose no matter the time or the day.
        Trust me brother BIG G won't steer you wrong or make you fat.
        I think my body can handle and extra 9 grams of sugar (14 total grams of carbs) a day per 8 oz of juice.
        From the label.

        Just Cranberry

        Juice 100%



        Nutrition Facts
        Serving Size: 8 FL. OZ. (240 mL)
        Calories 60
        % Daily Value*
        Total Fat 0g 0%
        Sodium 25 mg 1%
        Potassium 85 mg 2%
        Total Carbohydrates 14g 5%
        Sugars 7g

        Protein less than 1 g

        Vitamin A 0%
        Vitamin C 4%
        Calcium 2%
        Iron 15%


        INGREDIENTS: Filtered water (sufficient to reconstitute), concentrated cranberry juice.
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        • #5
          very good post Massive G....flushing everything out has great health benefits.

          Liver/Gall bladder flushes, colonics, etc...are all beneficial in getting toxins and crud out of one's system.

          Speaking of colonics, John Wayne reportedly had 25 pounds of gunk stuck in his colon at autopsy. Talk about a cesspool....
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          • #6
            In addition to the Cranberry juice a lot of people have inquired about TMG...
            "An extract from sugar beets and also known as anhydrous Betaine, TMG is a natural polysaccharide and a good source of methyl groups that promotes healthier levels of the powerful pro-oxidant and free radical generator homocysteine. Homocysteine is a toxic end product of the metabolism (methylation) of methionine (an essential amino acid) and is now known to be a leading cause of heart and artery disease.

            Multiple studies have demonstrated that medium to high levels of plasma homocysteine are associated with increased risk of heart disease, cerebrovascular disease and peripheral artery disease. In one study, daily treatment with TMG, folic acid and choline normalized homocysteine levels in 17 of 19 patients. [1]

            Along with cofactors such as vitamins B6, B12 and Folic Acid, TMG is part of a chemical contingent in the body that works against cancer, heart and neurological diseases, and nearly every age-related disorder.

            TMG is a versatile nutrient and provides an intermediary metabolite that can enable a person or animal to function at more optimum mental and physical levels. It aids the body in overcoming a number of adverse health conditions, and is an intricate part of human metabolism. DMG (TMG’s metabolite) has been used as a nutritional supplement for over 25 years. In a broad sense, TMG protects the body from many forms of physical, metabolic and environmental stress.

            Applications include
            Immune modulation: Improves antibody response, enhances B- and T-cell function, and regulates cytokines.
            Viral/bacterial infections: Enhances immune response.
            Cardiovascular: Reduces cholesterol and triglyceride levels, helps eliminate hypoxia, improves coronary circulation, decreases angina pain.
            Athletic performance: Enhances endurance, improves oxygen utilization, reduces lactic acid buildup, improves muscle recovery.
            Autism/epilepsy: Improves verbal communication/social interaction/lethargy, may reduce seizures
            Chronic fatigue syndrome: Greater mental alertness and energy, improves immune dysfunction.
            Melanoma: Anti-tumor activity, prevents metastasis.
            Lupus (SLE): Reduces antinuclear antibodies, modulates cytokine production.

            In the liver, TMG transfers one of its three methyl groups to homocysteine, which is then converted into the useful amino acid methionine.

            When methylation is working properly, homocysteine is quickly converted back to methionine which is then converted to SAMe (S-adenosylmethionine), which protects the liver and is a natural antidepressant. [2][3] SAMe then acts as a methyl donor for DNA: when attached to DNA, methyl groups appear protective, preventing mutated genes from expressing themselves. [4] It may improve health, reduce the risk of genetically induced cancers, and slow cellular aging. Factors that decrease methylation include smoking, alcohol consumption, high fat diets and birth control pills.

            TMG supplementation may sometimes produce hyperactivity in autistic children. Folic acid appears to help neutralize this effect at one or two 800mcg tablets. [Autism Res Rev Int 10( 3): 7, 1996]

            The usual TMG dose is 500 to 1,000mg per day - roughly equivalent to what a diet high in broccoli, spinach or beets would provide.

            NOTE: An inexpensive variety is Betaine HCL which acts as a stomach acidifier and is not practical due to stomach irritation at the doses required to enhance methylation metabolism.

            References
            (1) Dudman, N.P., et al. "Disordered methionine/homocysteine metabolism in premature vascular disease. Its occurrence, cofactor therapy and enzymology," Arteriosclerosis and Thrombosis 13(9): 1253-60, 1993
            (2) Dudman, N. "Disordered methionine/homocysteine metabolism in premature vascular disease," Arteriosclerosis and Thrombosis 13(9): 1253-60, 1993
            (3) Kishi, T. "Effect of betaine on s-adenosylmethionine levels in the cerebrospinal fluid in a patient with methylenetetrahydrofolate reductase deficiency and peripheral neuropathy" J Inherited Metabolic Disease 17(5): 560-5, 1994
            (4) Cooney, C. "Are somatic cells inherently deficient in methylation metabolism?" Growth, Development & Aging 57(4): 261-73, 1993
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            • #7
              More on TMG:
              "TMG (Tri-methyl-glycine) can help with the following:
              Addictions Cigarette Smoke Damage

              Aging
              Parkinson's Disease The compound 5-adenosylmethionine (SAMe), potentially produced through the demethylation of TMG, has been shown to improve Parkinson's disease.


              Autoimmune
              Lupus, SLE (Systemic Lupus Erythromatosis)

              Circulation
              Angina
              Arrhythmias/Dysrhythmias A four-year clinical evaluation of DMG (or TMG) by Mitchell Pries, MD of Palmdale, California has confirmed Soviet findings. In trials involving the administration of DMG at 125mg bid to over 400 cardiovascular patients, Dr. Pries reported major improvements in several areas including arrhythmias. This dose is low, and a more rapid response may be possible at higher doses.


              Diet
              Effects of a High Fat Diet

              Environment / Toxicity
              Sun Damage/Overexposure

              Hormones
              Progesterone Low or Estrogen Dominance TMG converts to S-adenosyl methionine (SAMe, an activated form of methionine) in the body. SAMe assists in the breakdown of estrogens.

              Low Adrenal Function / Adrenal Insufficiency The adrenal gland uses nutrients such as TMG (betaine), tyrosine, vitamins B5, B6 and C to maintain function and produce its hormones.


              Immunity
              Chronic Fatigue / Fibromyalgia Syndrome
              Weakened Immune System

              Infections
              Herpes Simplex Type I

              Lab Values
              High Total Cholesterol
              High Levels Of Triglycerides

              Mental
              Depression The compound 5-adenosylmethionine (SAMe), potentially produced through the demethylation of TMG, has been shown to alleviate depression.

              Tendency Toward Postpartum Depression

              Metabolic
              Gilbert's Syndrome Methionine, administered as SAM, resulted in a significant decreases in serum bilirubin in patients with Gilbert's syndrome in a recent clinical study. SAM has been used with favorable results in a variety of other chronic liver diseases. TMG also converts to SAMe while being considerably less expensive.

              Addictions / Addictive Tendencies TMG or SAMe may be especially useful in treating depression associated with drug withdrawal.


              Musculo-Skeletal
              Osteoarthritis TMG, administered as S-adenosyl-methionine (SAMe), was shown to be superior to ibuprofen (Motrin) in the treatment of osteoarthritis in a double-blind clinical trial. The positive effect in this trial is consistent with several other clinical studies.


              Nervous System
              Seizure Disorder TMG has been noted to reduce seizure activity in some individuals.


              Organ Health
              Liver Detoxification / Support Requirement
              Gallbladder Disease

              Pain
              Low Back Pain

              Skin-Hair-Nails
              Psoriasis "

              Just search on tri methyl glycine TMG and there is a ton more info out there.
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              • #8
                BTW another good one for the liver is NAC I got this off a detox site LOL but you get the idea.
                "N-Acetyl-Cysteine (NAC) For Mercury Detoxification
                What Is NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine)?
                NAC is produced in living organisms from the amino acid cysteine. Thus, NAC is a natural sulfur-containing amino acid derivative found naturally in foods and is a powerful antioxidant. These dual properties help repair oxidative damage in the body. Being a powerful anti-oxidant and cell detoxification co-factor, NAC works to eliminate your body of free radicals and heavy metals. This improves your cellular health tremendously.

                How NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) Works To Detoxify From Mercury
                Mercury Amalgams : "I don't feel comfortable using a substance designated by the Environmental Protection Agency to be a waste disposal hazard. I can't throw it in the trash, bury it in the ground, or put it in a landfill, but they say it is OK to put it in people's mouths. That doesn't make sense." - Richard. Fischer, D.D.S.

                N-Acetyl-Cysteine is currently the dietary supplement of choice for building up cysteine or conserving the body's store of Glutathione, Cysteine and other Sulfhydryl anti-oxidant resources. This is very crucial for the body's life functions, as NAC helps the body neutralize toxins, heavy metals, such as mercury from dental amalgam fillings, cadmium and lead from paint and cigarette smoke. The Sulfhydryl balance has also been linked to enhance resistance to viral infections.

                NAC is a chelator of heavy metals. In other words, NAC binds to toxic heavy metals such as mercury and lead, and removes them from the body. This is a slow process, but most chelating agents, such as EDTA, are generally given intravenously. NAC is one of the most effective oral chelating agents. Taken regularly over a period of time, NAC will remove many toxic heavy metals from the body. Toxic metals can accumulate in the body over time from many sources such as drinking water and possibly even from tooth fillings made of silver-mercury amalgam. These heavy metals catalyze free-radical reactions. In other words, they initiate free-radical reactions without being used up during the reaction. So these heavy metals continue to cause free radical damage as long as they are present in the body.

                NAC has been shown to antidote acetaminophen (Tylenol) poisoning, mercury poisoning, and even arsenic poisoning. Mercury is especially important because of the increasing evidence linking mercury amalgam dental fillings with the onset of degenerative diseases such as Multiple Sclerosis. NAC chelates, i.e. "grabs" heavy metals and removes them from the body.

                NAC has been shown to be a protective agent in many diseases and conditions in which free radicals play a role. This includes cancer, AIDS, cirrhosis, as well as pollution damage from smoking or other chemicals. Rats given NAC were completely protected against cigarette smoke caused DNA cross-linking.

                NAC helps with mercury toxicity and other conditions
                Cancer research has shown that NAC dramatically reduces the ability of a tumor to invade surrounding tissue. In one study, NAC decreased the number of metastases by 80% when cancer cells were pretreated with NAC. NAC can be used for colon cancer prevention. A preliminary double-blind placebo-controlled study of NAC enrolled 62 individuals, each of whom had had a polyp removed from the colon. The abnormal growth of polyps is closely associated with the development of colon cancer. In this study, the potential anticancer benefits of NAC treatment were evaluated by taking a biopsy of the rectum. Individuals taking NAC at 800 mg daily for 12 weeks showed more normal cells in the biopsied tissue as compared to those in the placebo group.

                Immunologically, NAC greatly enhances T-cell production. In fact, all AIDS patients are deficient in NAC and glutathione. NAC suppresses the replication of HIV in vitro and enhances the ability of certain immune cells to kill pathogens. A double-blind study at Stanford University of 45 people, suggested that NAC may increase levels of CD4+ cells (a type of immune cell) in healthy people and slow CD4+ cell decline in people with HIV. Patient given 3200mg to 8000mg of NAC daily for 6 weeks were roughly twice as likely to survive for 2 years as the subject that did not take NAC.



                NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) - a friend to your liver
                NAC can help to prevent damage to the liver caused from overuse of acetaminophen (Tylenol). NAC is the standard medical treatment for acetaminophen overdose. It is prudent to take NAC whenever one uses acetaminophen.

                NAC is an excellent mucolytic agent. It keeps the membranes of the respiratory system moist, thereby lessening the irritation of dry air, dust, and pollutants. It also helps the immune system to do its job properly in the respiratory tract. NAC is available as a prescription drug for this purpose, but you can buy NAC over the counter for far less money.


                NAC (N-Acetyl-Cysteine) - Take Plenty Of Vitamin C
                N-Acetyl Cysteine is a more stable compound than taking oral cysteine, but as it is metabolized, some N-Acetyl Cysteine may be oxidized and become insoluble. This may form kidney stones. It is therefore recommended that individuals taking NAC take 3 times as much vitamin C when taking NAC to prevent the NAC from being oxydized. Diabetics should consult their physician before using N-Acetyl-Cysteine, since it may have an insulin-blocking effect.


                N-Acetyl Cysteine is one of the pillars of a good mercury detoxification program, the others being chlorella, MSM and the herb cilantro, which is discussed here. Garlic is also a good mercury chelator."

                EVERYBODY keep them pipes clean.
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                • #9
                  My father-in-law drinks that stuff, but mixes it with water. It's good to prevent bladder infections also. I like it plain, but it's damn tart.

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                  • #10
                    massive,,,

                    Is there a cranberry juice extract pill that you can buy at the health food store by any chance? I just absolutely hate cranberry juice and the way it tastes.
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                    • #11
                      thanks for the advice. i'm getting tons of new info today

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                      • #12
                        a cranberry juice flush program is usually about two weeks right?

                        I've used the knudsen's before and you definitely have to dilute it. I used water to dilute mine, and then just hammer it down.
                        "Well done is better than well said"

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by bigp3
                          massive,,,

                          Is there a cranberry juice extract pill that you can buy at the health food store by any chance? I just absolutely hate cranberry juice and the way it tastes.
                          Yes there is...I take enough pills....ack....but prolly can get the same benefit from the pills....I have taken some from Vitamin World before.

                          One of my clients told me to fugg off in a good way as ocean spray made him gag....so he was having none of the concentrate. LOL
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by GetnBigr
                            a cranberry juice flush program is usually about two weeks right?

                            I've used the knudsen's before and you definitely have to dilute it. I used water to dilute mine, and then just hammer it down.
                            Yes it is 2 weeks for me-my normal cruise period.
                            Sometimes I will drink 4 oz EOD during a blast but most of the time will just drink it when cruising.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SuperSport
                              very good post Massive G....flushing everything out has great health benefits.

                              Liver/Gall bladder flushes, colonics, etc...are all beneficial in getting toxins and crud out of one's system.

                              Speaking of colonics, John Wayne reportedly had 25 pounds of gunk stuck in his colon at autopsy. Talk about a cesspool....
                              Thanks SS maybe we could potst a thread and stick it on the various flushing techniques we can do from home.
                              I have always wanted to do the gall bladder one but damn you cant eat for a day or so right?
                              Damn! and I have heard horror stories of how people have lbs of undigested meat in their colon....uggghhhhh...I can see it now go in at 300 and come out 270.......
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