Creatine Ethyl Ester

[GyM RaT 03]

Just wondering if you guys have tried it and what you think. Thanks alot


GR03

[The Munster]

Man I've never even heard of it.

[GyM RaT 03]

lol ive heard it was pretty good but just wanted to find out more info about it before i order.


GR03

[JnJ23]

i just ordered some, by VPX, I heard many positive reviews on it, i.e. strength gains, more energy, better recovery, something us dc'ers all need

[GyM RaT 03]

what is the dose for it I havnt really been able to find much out about it. And when do you take it. Thanks


GR03

[bigp3]

new one to me

[GyM RaT 03]

lol i thought you woulde know at least bp3 lol.


GR03

[tpc]

we are looking at this compound right now to see if it would be worth it to offer in bulk form. it is extremely expensive compared to micronized creatine monohydrate, but some of the studies show it as very promising.

in basic terms: the ability of CEE (creatine ethyl ester) absorption to the blood stream and for easy assimilation to the skeletal muscle, is supposedly phenomenal, almost in the range of 95-99%. which absolutely blows away creatine monohydrate on a absorption/assimilation level, as well as a few other key factors; mainly bloating and the altered creatine composition by stomach enzyme/acid exposure (which can be very bad).

we are not sure if the increased price is worth it, over a regular tried and true creatine monohydrate, but if the experience of others show it is worth it, we will probably offer it.

doug

[MsteveM]

can you give an approximation of what the price would be if you decided to carry it? that way maybe you can get some feedback to see if customers think its worth it.

[JnJ23]

what is the dose for it I havnt really been able to find much out about it. And when do you take it. Thanks


GR03

Proprietary Blend 2500mg
Crea-Ester (Creatine Ethyl Ester HCI)
C-AKG (Creatine alpha-Ketoglutarate)

Directions: Combine 2/3 teaspoon (~3g) of CEX with 16 oz of water. Always consume 12 to 16 oz of additional water immediately following each serving of CEX. For best results use 1 to 2 servings of CEX daily including non-training days

[Massive G]

I am going to give this a shot.
Some info I dug up on it.
First one may be SALES HYPED based.
"Creatine Ethyl Ester is a brand new type of supplement that does not really compare to any creatine you may have tried. Its rapid absorption and nearly 100% utilization makes Creatine Ethyl Ester 30-40 times more potent than regular creatine. Its absorption is so potent, it will improve the performance and delivery of other supplements. Due to its advanced structure, no bloating, cramping, dehydration, fat gain or water retention is experienced. What is experienced is insane pumps, dramatically increased endurance and of course, strength gains. Due to its inability to break down, Creatine Ethyl Ester is stable in various liquids. For lack of a better phrase, its "creatine on steroids." Not one of our beta testers reported short of "very impressed" as the compound proves to be very effective among a variety of athletes."

Number 2 is A much better article by L.Rea

"Creatine Ethyl Ester (CEE)

The newest creatine coming is creatine ethyl ester, which is in my opinion, the most effective creatine source currently possible. Why?

There is a problem with all the creatine's currently on the market...they suck at "absorption". Yup, all of the creatine monohydrates, citrates, malates, and high (or low) tech delivery systems are only getting milligram amounts of creatine into your muscles, even though you are consuming GRAM amounts! And the amazing thing is, most people still get dramatic effects from all of these sub-optimal creatines.

So can you just imagine how impressive your size and strength increases would be if you absorbed nearly 100% of the creatine you swallowed? And guess what? This is now possible with the breakthrough scientific discovery of creatine ethyl esters.

All of the creatines currently on the market have a "dual charge"...one end is positive and the other is negative. In science, this is called a zwitterion. Cool word, huh? Well, it's not so cool when it comes to absorbing creatine!

You see, zwitterions are not able to penetrate lipid (fat) membranes. So, guess what...the membranes that creatine must pass through to venture from your gut to your bloodstream are made of lipids! And before creatine can go from the bloodstream to the muscle cells, it must once again face the same type of lipid membranes that it encountered in the gut.

This means that regular creatine does not readily penetrate these lipid membranes and most of it just sits there in your gut. Naturally since the dual charge creatines by nature draw water with them wherever they go, you tend to become very bloated, gassy, and often get a case of the toilet trots.

Add to this the fact that the longer that creatine sits in the harsh PH environment in the gut, the more it becomes "deactivated" and turned into the useless and potentially toxic substance, creatinine!

However, creatine ethyl esters are different! The chemical attachment of an ester to the creatine molecule makes it incredibly lipophilic, or fat penetrating, allowing it to quickly and very efficiently pass right through the lipid membranes of the gut directly into the bloodstream for direct transport to your creatine hungry muscle cells. (No sugar or other so-called transporters necessary)"

[Massive G]

I got a kilo coming of the CEE, so I will test it out for a month and post results.
As I am clean now(1/2 year and going) and training hard and eating hard I should be a good case study.
Normally micronized creatine puts a good 10 lbs on me in 4 weeks @20 gms a day.
Basic exercises usually jump up at least 50 lbs and I gain reps on everything.

[GyM RaT 03]

YEa I also have a kilo of this on the way lets see what happens with it. Massive i am going to keep results in this thread so lets see how it goes.


GR03

[Massive G]

YEa I also have a kilo of this on the way lets see what happens with it. Massive i am going to keep results in this thread so lets see how it goes.


GR03

Will do as 2 is always better than one..lol.
Perhaps this could be pinned in the general forum so it is not lost.

[speedR]

Where did you pick up your kilo from? CNW? I'm not sure how true it is but from what I've read the FDA has yet to approve this so it might not be around for too long. Not sure how true this is though.