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I put this post up on my FB and then followed up with the second portion. I decided that this is a good place to add this post and I also believe it sparkes some good conversation/debate. If you have any questions or even disagree feel free to comment.
You want freaky dense muscle? You want a physique that looks like it was carved from stone? Then stop training like a pussy. I asked both of my mentors how I should train...here are their answers.
Dante Trudel: Move heavy slag iron! Make sure your poundages are progressing and move heavy ass weight.
Chris Aceto: The best way to train is fucking hard.
As you can see they both answered pretty much the same so that's what I've been doing and although nobody will claim my physique is pretty it is getting more nasty by the day.
DH~8
My Follow up post when of course someone brought up form yada yada yada
The correct term is intensity and from experience many athletes that train for form and squeeze as well as those who train for weight do not train with intensity. I train as if every set is my last opportunity to grow. Example last night's back workout. It's not that I got 765 for 12 on rack deads. It's that at the seventh rep I wanted to get to 9 and at the 9th I knew I could get 10 but at the 10th I felt I could get 11 and after the 11th I said **** it let's attempt 12 and after squeezing out 12 I knew my form would put me in danger going for 13 so I stopped...dropped to 675 and did another set for 18. That's what I mean by not training like a pussy. During the set I knew I had more and kept going. Mentally I knew what I was physically capable of.
Dante's response to the post:
Lets do it this way..... lets limit it. Lets make it really simple. A rich eccentric billionaire approaches every guy reading this thread and says.... Ill give you a million dollars if you build traps one inch higher than they are right now. And I will give you another Million dollars if you build quads one inch bigger than they are right now. You can use 2 exercises...for traps you can use rack deadlifts, for quads you can use squats thats it. You currently use 275 x 12 on rack deadlifts
You currently use 250 x 12 on deep squats.
GO!
The day you are doing 600 pounds for 20 reps on rack deadlifts and
the day you are doing 500 pounds for 20 deep reps on squats will be many days AFTER YOU HAVE ALREADY collected your 2 million dollars.
Quickest way to NOT collect the 2 million dollars? Doing drop sets with 275 pound rack deadlifts (that youve ,already done 50 times previously) doing super slow training with 275lb rack deadlifts,
(ditto)and doing drop sets with 250 pound squats, (ditto)doing super slow training with 250 pound squats.
(ditto) Everyone wants to find the easier way.....
Alot of people like to drug their way to gains and then will tell anyone within 1000 miles of them about their training when it was really the 2 grams of test and 100mg of tren a day they have been abusing.
Want to change your body with training? Then you actually have to give a reason for an adaption to take place=progressively heavier and heavier loads whether thats 6 reps or 20 reps (people for some reason think heavy means triples)
Want to fix that creaky injured shoulder you have? Well a light massage isnt going to do it-the easy route. Deep ART that makes your eyes water, and has you wincing, gritting your teeth will (the hard route). Want to change your physique? The majority will take the easy road of comfortable lifting and mega drugging (which comes back to hit them in the ass 12-20 years later). The smart ones will be respectfull to their health and force their body to change with doing something their body hasnt done before (heavier and heavier progressive weights in safe rep ranges)
I know many of you will disagree but I have talked at length with both Dante and Chris about what heavy slag training does to a physique and both have told me looking at a lot of promising bodybuilders that what holds them back from having that "freak factor" is how they train. I know a lot of you are probably tempted to try a hundred different routines but I can tell you that NOTHING beats progressive training when it comes to adding size and density. So when you see a nasty physique or muscle that looks like it has details in its details then I promise you that you are looking at a physique that was forged in the trenches blasting away at the weights, at the table, and being mindful of rest.
DH
You want freaky dense muscle? You want a physique that looks like it was carved from stone? Then stop training like a pussy. I asked both of my mentors how I should train...here are their answers.
Dante Trudel: Move heavy slag iron! Make sure your poundages are progressing and move heavy ass weight.
Chris Aceto: The best way to train is fucking hard.
As you can see they both answered pretty much the same so that's what I've been doing and although nobody will claim my physique is pretty it is getting more nasty by the day.
DH~8
My Follow up post when of course someone brought up form yada yada yada
The correct term is intensity and from experience many athletes that train for form and squeeze as well as those who train for weight do not train with intensity. I train as if every set is my last opportunity to grow. Example last night's back workout. It's not that I got 765 for 12 on rack deads. It's that at the seventh rep I wanted to get to 9 and at the 9th I knew I could get 10 but at the 10th I felt I could get 11 and after the 11th I said **** it let's attempt 12 and after squeezing out 12 I knew my form would put me in danger going for 13 so I stopped...dropped to 675 and did another set for 18. That's what I mean by not training like a pussy. During the set I knew I had more and kept going. Mentally I knew what I was physically capable of.
Dante's response to the post:
Lets do it this way..... lets limit it. Lets make it really simple. A rich eccentric billionaire approaches every guy reading this thread and says.... Ill give you a million dollars if you build traps one inch higher than they are right now. And I will give you another Million dollars if you build quads one inch bigger than they are right now. You can use 2 exercises...for traps you can use rack deadlifts, for quads you can use squats thats it. You currently use 275 x 12 on rack deadlifts
You currently use 250 x 12 on deep squats.
GO!
The day you are doing 600 pounds for 20 reps on rack deadlifts and
the day you are doing 500 pounds for 20 deep reps on squats will be many days AFTER YOU HAVE ALREADY collected your 2 million dollars.
Quickest way to NOT collect the 2 million dollars? Doing drop sets with 275 pound rack deadlifts (that youve ,already done 50 times previously) doing super slow training with 275lb rack deadlifts,
(ditto)and doing drop sets with 250 pound squats, (ditto)doing super slow training with 250 pound squats.
(ditto) Everyone wants to find the easier way.....
Alot of people like to drug their way to gains and then will tell anyone within 1000 miles of them about their training when it was really the 2 grams of test and 100mg of tren a day they have been abusing.
Want to change your body with training? Then you actually have to give a reason for an adaption to take place=progressively heavier and heavier loads whether thats 6 reps or 20 reps (people for some reason think heavy means triples)
Want to fix that creaky injured shoulder you have? Well a light massage isnt going to do it-the easy route. Deep ART that makes your eyes water, and has you wincing, gritting your teeth will (the hard route). Want to change your physique? The majority will take the easy road of comfortable lifting and mega drugging (which comes back to hit them in the ass 12-20 years later). The smart ones will be respectfull to their health and force their body to change with doing something their body hasnt done before (heavier and heavier progressive weights in safe rep ranges)
I know many of you will disagree but I have talked at length with both Dante and Chris about what heavy slag training does to a physique and both have told me looking at a lot of promising bodybuilders that what holds them back from having that "freak factor" is how they train. I know a lot of you are probably tempted to try a hundred different routines but I can tell you that NOTHING beats progressive training when it comes to adding size and density. So when you see a nasty physique or muscle that looks like it has details in its details then I promise you that you are looking at a physique that was forged in the trenches blasting away at the weights, at the table, and being mindful of rest.
DH
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