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    So...I'm a Personal Trainer, been doing it for a while, though I'm a young buck.

    Been doing DC Training for about 3 years or so...started off as a very small ecto, I think my body wants to be at 140-150 without massive food....went from about 150 at 9% or so to 200 at around 15%. (Feel like a fatass, but whatever, gonna diet down soon). Anyway, put on a lot of size in that time, though some fat, I'm not doing anything to impede gains.

    Yesterday I was told by MY MANAGER (who is a good guy, well versed in Fitness, etc) how my program SUCKS and I had to decide whether I wanna be a powerlifter or a bodybuilder, and that when I diet down, I'm gonna be really small, and I'm too "bubbly" right now. "You're gonna be about 160 when you diet down, you need to do more volume"

    Nothing ever makes me mad, nothing, not ever. But this did. I can't tell you why, but I was furious at these comments. I know this program works, it's helped me put on all the size I have. I tried volume training and eating a lot and it didn't do dick compared to this.

    I've never cared what other people think about me, I've always been one to beat myself, to be better than I was last year. My food intake has always been what's held me back. I take in probably enough or almost enough, but it's not clean enough and I know what's holding me back.

    In January I'm hiring Shelby Starnes to lean me out, and after that, I'm hiring him again for the "offseason" of next year. At this time next year I can promise you (God-willing) that I will be the biggest and leanest person working at my gym.
    Last edited by darkguitars2000; 10-27-2011, 10:07 AM.
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    He sounds like a hater.... Good luck to you with your plan.
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    • #3
      That was his round-a-bout way of calling you fat.
      If the program is working for you then stick to the plan. We all know that sometimes we need to carry a little extra weight to acquire the gains. Just don't let it get excessive.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by darkguitars2000 View Post
        So...I'm a Personal Trainer, been doing it for a while, though I'm a young buck.

        Been doing DC Training for about 3 years or so...started off as a very small ecto, I think my body wants to be at 140-150 without massive food....went from about 150 at 9% or so to 200 at around 15%. (Feel like a fatass, but whatever, gonna diet down soon). Anyway, put on a lot of size in that time, though some fat, I'm not doing anything to impede gains.
        Ask him to do the math.

        Get your BF estimated and go from there. If you're really 15% (at 200lb) and you drop to 180, all of it fat, you'll be at about 5%. (Actually, you'll probably drop some water initially when you diet down, but that's a rough estimate.)

        If he thinks you'll be at 160 when you diet down (let's assume that means 5% BF at 160), and you were to lose no muscle in the process (again hypothetical), then he's saying you're carrying 48lb of fat right now, meaning you're currently about 24% body fat...

        Post pics and we can get an idea.

        (It is possible to get fat doing DC, of course, if diet and cardio aren't in place...)

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        • #5
          That would piss me off too. Just keep doing what you're doing, diet down in the next year and blow him away.

          Also, for a natural, 160 pounds is really not THAT small at contest condition, especially if you're under 6'.

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          • #6
            Don't sweat it.

            Sound slike you made awsome gains

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            • #7
              Switch gyms, come back after another year of DC training and SHOW this guy how shitty DC really is and see what he has to say for himself.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by dakoose View Post
                Switch gyms, come back after another year of DC training and SHOW this guy how shitty DC really is and see what he has to say for himself.
                Or you can just ignore people that don't agree with you.



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by fade View Post
                  Or you can just ignore people that don't agree with you.



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                  Bingo. Unless you are intentionally using the criticism to fuel the goals that YOU want, let it go. Also, I think you should give Skip a go for the diet stuff.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by LearningDC View Post
                    Bingo. Unless you are intentionally using the criticism to fuel the goals that YOU want, let it go. Also, I think you should give Skip a go for the diet stuff.
                    Definitely. Skip knows his shit and he also provides this board for us to all come here and actually learn about diet rather than all drugs or supplements at other boards.

                    Nice to actually support the guys that are helping you out anyway.
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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the incite fellas.

                      I am 199 and 17% the other day from a 3-site caliper test. (Done by another senior trainer who's done about a million pinches).

                      I will say I look like shit, undoubtedly. Will put up pictures when I get someone who can take em.

                      I was pretty mad the other day when I wrote this, calmed down now. I definitely would never switch gyms, (as I do work there), but also because the man who said it to me is someone I greatly admire and who has helped me a lot. We disagree about this subject, but it's no reason to throw the friendship out the window.

                      However, I will use it as a motivator this coming year.
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                      • #12
                        Well this is bad any way you look at it. Haha. Can't wait to start dieting.
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                          I think he was probably just being a good friend, and being honest, tbh.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by fade View Post
                            Or you can just ignore people that don't agree with you.



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                            I guess; my overall point was to use it as motivation and prove him wrong. Taking the high road is usually best but sometimes its fun to rub it in some idiot's face.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by RedSkull View Post
                              I think he was probably just being a good friend, and being honest, tbh.
                              Yeah, judging from the photo he may have a point. I'm not trying to be a dick, but three years of DC training should yield more than that, IMO.
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