New vid..week 3 of DC..Preacher curls

[Xx7]

Judge me, hate on me, whatever. looking for constructive criticism, rest breaks could have been a bit shorter. did bent rows as well but vid wont upload..rest breaks were too long on those, about 40 seconds because i couldnt find a clock.. but this particular one seems solid..and i gave it everything i had.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtube_gdata_player&v=NkXYOesJMGc

[bouncer dave]

what I do is extend a bit lower , but raise the body on full extension , for safety.
I do not bring the bar above what I feel as continued tension.

[Xx7]

what I do is extend a bit lower , but raise the body on full extension , for safety.
I do not bring the bar above what I feel as continued tension.

good point, thanks man. it actually crossed my mind that i wasnt going quite low enough

[Michael Travis]

perhaps slow the negative a bit would be my only advice, that and dont worry about not having a clock, 11-15 deep controlled breaths give or take between RP sets.

[Xx7]

perhaps slow the negative a bit would be my only advice, that and dont worry about not having a clock, 11-15 deep controlled breaths give or take between RP sets.

you're always helpful when you pop up in my threads, i really appreciate that, and ill note that. im worried that my 15 breaths are gonna take much more than the 20-25 seconds they should...

[theroymccoy]

So how many RP reps was that?

Sure, those 'body english' reps on a preacher is more intense but you should keep it consistent. Do you count those? Do you not count those? What's a good rep and what's not? How will you know what number to beat next go around?

I'd recommend going to full extension at the bottom, slight bend in the elbow (DC recommendation) before coming up. At least you can keep it consistent.

Rig that preacher bench so it's more stable; looks flimsy.

As others have stated don't rely on the clock just count your breaths. A lot easier and keeps it consistent. Just don't try to hyperventilate or hold your breath to get more time out of it; big deep breaths.

[Xx7]

So how many RP reps was that?

Sure, those 'body english' reps on a preacher is more intense but you should keep it consistent. Do you count those? Do you not count those? What's a good rep and what's not? How will you know what number to beat next go around?

I'd recommend going to full extension at the bottom, slight bend in the elbow (DC recommendation) before coming up. At least you can keep it consistent.

Rig that preacher bench so it's more stable; looks flimsy.

As others have stated don't rely on the clock just count your breaths. A lot easier and keeps it consistent. Just don't try to hyperventilate or hold your breath to get more time out of it; big deep breaths.

i dont count them, i go til failure aiming for 11-15rp, this put me a bit higher than that but so what? Next week ill up the weight and beat my previous. the preacher bench is unstable i worked on it after the lift. and with the breaths, what if the 15 takes more than 20-25 seconds?

[kroxic]

what I do is extend a bit lower , but raise the body on full extension , for safety.
I do not bring the bar above what I feel as continued tension.

Meh I find that to put more pressure on everything. He is already raising his body on a lot of the reps.

I also don't know where you got the idea for hitch reps on the 2nd and 3rd sets but I would cease that behavior. That begs for injury. More importantly you are going to hyperfailure in the second set. If you do that, why bother with the third? Stick to doing a hold at the end of your 3rd set and cut out the forced reps.

Also look at the amount of shoulder movement you have in sets 1 2 and 3. Set one is pretty clean keeping the shoulders in a good place. The second set gets a little looser. The third is shot to hell from the forced reps on 2nd.
Shoot to make all three look like set 1 except for SLIGHT hitching in the shoulders on the last rep of set 2&3 and you will be in a much SAFER place for long term growth.

I am also questioning why you mention a video of a back exercise with a bicep one. I could assume it was from a different day but I have to ask if you are doing the 2 way split...?

[Xx7]

Meh I find that to put more pressure on everything. He is already raising his body on a lot of the reps.

I also don't know where you got the idea for hitch reps on the 2nd and 3rd sets but I would cease that behavior. That begs for injury. More importantly you are going to hyperfailure in the second set. If you do that, why bother with the third? Stick to doing a hold at the end of your 3rd set and cut out the forced reps.

Also look at the amount of shoulder movement you have in sets 1 2 and 3. Set one is pretty clean keeping the shoulders in a good place. The second set gets a little looser. The third is shot to hell from the forced reps on 2nd.
Shoot to make all three look like set 1 except for SLIGHT hitching in the shoulders on the last rep of set 2&3 and you will be in a much SAFER place for long term growth.

I am also questioning why you mention a video of a back exercise with a bicep one. I could assume it was from a different day but I have to ask if you are doing the 2 way split...?

yeah i was actually "overfocused" if thats what you wanna call it and was so set on hitting it hard i actually thought it was my last set. i normally would never do that on a second set..and i mentioned the back video because i did that monday and talked about putting up the vid in another thread but it wouldnt upload..just giving a heads up thats all, but yes im doing the 2 way split. and dually noted about the shoulder movement.

[kroxic]

yeah i was actually "overfocused" if thats what you wanna call it and was so set on hitting it hard i actually thought it was my last set. i normally would never do that on a second set..and i mentioned the back video because i did that monday and talked about putting up the vid in another thread but it wouldnt upload..just giving a heads up thats all, but yes im doing the 2 way split. and dually noted about the shoulder movement.

Glad to here about the 2 way split.

Also note, i think your break times were about fine but don't push them any longer(especially for something like biceps).

[Xx7]

Glad to here about the 2 way split.

Also note, i think your break times were about fine but don't push them any longer(especially for something like biceps).

thanks man, and i totally get it, im trying to discipline myself more with break times

[theroymccoy]

i dont count them, i go til failure aiming for 11-15rp, this put me a bit higher than that but so what? Next week ill up the weight and beat my previous. the preacher bench is unstable i worked on it after the lift. and with the breaths, what if the 15 takes more than 20-25 seconds?

I think kroxic answered these questions very well.

[LearningDC]

Kroxic covered most everything. Are you rest pausing the bent over rows? If you are, don't. 2 sets for these, a heavy one around 12 and a heavier one around 6.

[bouncer dave]

Meh I find that to put more pressure on everything. He is already raising his body on a lot of the reps.

probably should have explained myself better.
its not the raise he is performing. its more like a lean over to create a bend in the elbow.

[lilarnold]

AS ALREADY SAID. TOO FAST......i personally use a 3-1-3 cadence when doing preacher curls. i also do them with a cble or hammer machine because this provided max tension at peak contraction. the movement your doing provides minimal resistance at the top if at all....remember the 3 failure points are concentric, eccentric and then static. fail at all 3 and watch your arms grow like weeds (everything else for that matter!)