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  • This royally pisses me off (remember this post?)

    I have a guy who contacted me and here is his story

    "Hi Dante you might rember me my names ***** (HIDDEN FOR ITS HIS PERSONAL BUSINESS) i sent u an email the other
    day telling you about my story..about my attempts to gain mass over the
    last 3 years.

    I need your help dante and i dont no where else to turn... im fukin sick
    of bein skinny. I weighed in today at 173lbs and even tho that isnt
    too bad i must be carrying about 10-15lbs of unecersarry fat. Put it
    like this my arms are 12.5 inches and my chest is 39.5 inches. Which
    is low for my weight correct?

    I look in the mirror and i jus am not happy with what i see at all when
    i walk i feel small i hate it so much. my confidence is low because
    of it, my job is shit because of it, i have no girlfriend because of
    it...its so depressing.

    I want a body to be proud of. I want to feel comfterball topless...
    seriously im not sure if u did this but i do, i wear extra layers of
    clothes in a lame attempt to look bigger. Right now im sitting hear
    in 3 layers and its the summer. Summer as u prob know is the worst time
    for an ectomorph because your skinyness is exposed.. (cant hide under
    that jumper)i dont wanna hav to go through another summer like this!!


    I work a night shift job cos im too afraid to go out in the day with
    the body i have...seriously thats how bad its getting to me. When i
    goto work i ware 2 t shirts, then a shirt then a jumper over that. 4
    layers!! jus to try look that lil bit bigger...

    i goto the gym in several layors cos every1 is bigger than me there..
    i feel embarresedabout asking for protein after i finish my workout.


    Like i said i started off at around 135lbs i believe and in 3 years i
    mus hav only gained about arround 15-20lbs of decent weight. God that
    makes me feel so angry when i thinkabout how hard ive tried, and how
    little i have to show for it. All that time and money wasted...damn.

    Im ready to go to war as u put it. But i cant do it without you by my
    side.

    i dont have the money to pay 500 dollars u ask for im in a low paid job,
    at the end of each month after i pay for my food and my other bills
    im left with about $200 so it would take me arround 3 months to save
    up for what your asking. I would be willing to pay in install ments,
    hell id even pay you double,tripple quadruple when i have the money...
    that is how much this means to me.

    Im begging u to help me dante, im on my knees. Help a brother out."

    OK THIS IS DANTE, Guys this gets to me because at one time I was so skinny at 140lbs and 6 foot I felt the same way this guy does. My forearms were so skinny i wore long sleeve shirts even in the summer and that went on for about 2 years. It sucks to be that self concious but when you hear people saying "your so skinny, your so darn skinny"....and thats the last thing you want to hear because your doing everything in your power just to look normal....it just really sucks. I dont think people who havent gone thru being painfully skinny can understand the havoc it wreaks on your confidence. So this email got to me but here is the dilemna
    1)I dont like payment plans after being taken 2-3 times so far doing that and refuse to do them now. Teaching all this to someone is kind of like giving someone a tub of protein powder and trying to get paid later. Once they have gone thru it all they feel "why the hell should I pay the guy, I used all the protein powder and its not there anymore"
    2)Im very busy with alot of people wanting me to train them and I dont feel I should overlook someone who pays me up front for someone I feel very sorry for--I dont think thats fair but on the other hand.....
    3)This kids story like I said gets to me--it hurts reading it and I cant stand not helping him in some way.

    So if any of my really knowledgeable trainees Ive personally trained on this board want to take him on and help him out let me know. He is willing to pay but it might be 50 to 100 dollars a month for 5-10months and like I said there is risk in that. I do ask this.....I want you to be very thorough and prompt with answering his emails and help him to the best of your ability. I also want this following part and there is no exceptions: if you get stuck anywhere with him that you seek my help here and Ill show you how to get him over the hump. I think you guys know that Im pretty good at fixing problems when they arise and that and the fine details how to go about all of this is the huge difference usually in the people who try doing this themselves and the people who get my personal help......since this has my name on it, I need to offer my input if you get stuck with him. I dont want you cut and pasting exactly what I had you doing because THATS WHAT I HAD YOU DOING and is not tuned for him. Ill show you what to ask him to start this and you can type it all up and pass it by me if you want (for my input if you want it) and then we will go from there. If this works out well you might see me pushing other people that want me to train them your way. Email me at my aol address if you want to undertake this thanks


    *****You guys know Im very very thorough when training someone and I keep a sharp eye on the workouts and the progression ....the 4 week measurements and weighins....and the thoughts that come out of your mouth on how you are feeling and doing.....and I expect the same of you here according to this kid
    Last edited by Doggcrapp; 08-05-2004, 04:13 PM.
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  • #2
    Dante, I will work with him, not for the money its the idea I feel for him and he seems sincere, so I will take him on...
    Last edited by In-Human; 08-06-2004, 12:36 AM.
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    • #3
      damn, you guys are nice. i was in the same boat, when i started highschool i was 5'3" and 94 lbs. i got so much shit from people for being little. when i graduated i was 5'11" and 147, and i wrestled at 135lbs. i had NO self confidence and couldn't talk to girls(or anyone for that matter) because i was so embarrassed about how small i was. IH/RJ, whoever trains him do a good job, it will change the rest of his life.

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      • #4
        I nominate In Human... lol... My only problem with helping peopleis that it seems that everyone I have ever lent a hand to as far as training or nutrition never listens to any of the shit I tell them. Maybe I am just a prick, but it always seems this way and it pisses me off to no end.
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        • #5
          Yep, graduated HS at 6'2" 150lbs
          21yrs later I'm around 235-240 (210-215 ripped)
          I was lucky that I never let it get to me. Anyone who picked on me because they thought they could, got hurt real bad (I was lucky that way).
          I hope this kid is legit and he is willing to kick the ass/ take the pain required to grow.
          I still struggle now (HRT) but I know how to grow, I just hit plateaus more often.
          Make sure that this kid is willing to bust his ass before putting yourselves out there for him.
          I know the feeling of satisfaction watching someone you train grow, they usually outgrow me.
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          • #6
            Wow, I'm really impressed with you guys.

            I'd volunteer, but I'm just so new to the program I don't think I'd be able to help him enough.

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            • #7
              Cant you guys just train me LOL
              Blade

              "Keep your purpose in mind, simply go to the gym and do your workout, do it well and don't worry
              what other people are doing. Confidence will grow as you achieve."

              "If you believe in yourself, have dedication and pride and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of
              victory is high, but so are the rewards"

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              • #8
                a couple concerns come up for me when i read that email

                1) if he is aware of your email address he must have access to the internet and know of the stuff you have posted so why not come on to this board or one of the other ones you frequent and pick up all the knowledge that is out there?

                2) if he is very financially restricted, which it sounds like he is, how could he possibly manage to pay a trainer and buy the necessary food?

                i started out in the same boat as this guy, super skinny and knowing fuck all about training, and when i started out all i did was read and read and read all the information i could find about training. most of it was bullshit garbage but i came across dante's stuff and all the pieces fell into place, so if you direct him to this site and the many things you have written it could be a very big and free help
                It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.

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                • #9
                  Yes, I would definitely, definitely volunteer to as well. But I don't think Dante trusts me enough LOL and I do not think I am knowledgeable about it enough yet to train people with this program.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by nemo
                    a couple concerns come up for me when i read that email

                    1) if he is aware of your email address he must have access to the internet and know of the stuff you have posted so why not come on to this board or one of the other ones you frequent and pick up all the knowledge that is out there?

                    2) if he is very financially restricted, which it sounds like he is, how could he possibly manage to pay a trainer and buy the necessary food?

                    i started out in the same boat as this guy, super skinny and knowing fuck all about training, and when i started out all i did was read and read and read all the information i could find about training. most of it was bullshit garbage but i came across dante's stuff and all the pieces fell into place, so if you direct him to this site and the many things you have written it could be a very big and free help
                    I agree with nemo on this one. I know you feel bad for the dude, and I wish him all the best of luck, but sometimes you can't help people by just handing it to them on a silver platter.

                    I have been here for a few months now, and I have learned so much, nothing majorly big, but a lot of little thing, which can really add up.

                    for myself I started out as the complete reverse of this guy, being the fat kid everyone beat up and made fun of. So I understand the self confidence part very well, but I really think what he needs is just perhaps someone to help steer him down the right path, and then along the way ask his fellow IM bros about things he's stumped on or has reached a sticking point.
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                    • #11
                      This is a pretty classy group of people here. I'm certainly glad to know you guys.

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                      • #12
                        Here's what I'll do for the cause. If In-Human takes this kid on and he follows the program and listens to In-Human...and that means if In-Human tells him to go to hell he gets a shovel and starts digging....I will treat the guy to a hearty helping of TPC protein. Since money is tight this should be quite helpful to the guy.

                        This is only if In-Human tells me that the guy is following the program. And I KNOW IH is no pushover. Once I get the word from him I'll take care of the protein and TPC can ship it to the guy.

                        Hey brother,if you're reading this, your story got to me. I have a similar one. I've felt your pain. Thanks to Dante I've come a long way. Balls in your court now. You want help? You got it. You got a question? We'll answer it. You follow the program, you get some free protein. No strings, no bullshit, I dont even care who you are. You're a brother of iron who needs help. BUT....you dont take this seriously or jerk us around.....we will eat you. :dcchomp:
                        Last edited by Gollum; 08-05-2004, 07:09 PM.
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                        • #13
                          I really appreciate that Gollum coming from you, thank you.

                          I will do my best if he will allow me to train him, and he will be appreciative to everything has learned already from Dante and all of us on this board...
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                          • #14
                            i'd be willing to help him out for free, but inhuman is much more experienced than i am and could probably do a better job.
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                            • #15
                              I think the best bet would be to have In-Human leading the charge and the rest of us pitching in as needed here on the board. That way the dude gets the benefit of IH's experience and we can assist him so he's not overwhelmed with questions. That is of course if the big guy is agreeable.

                              Dante, get that kid on the board! We will turn him into a freak!!!! :bat:
                              Through the best and the worst
                              The struggle and sacrifice.
                              For the true who've remained and the new blood.
                              Motivation, undying allegiance
                              Striving through the hardships and affliction.
                              Every drop of blood
                              Every bitter tear
                              Every bead of sweat
                              I live for this



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