can someone explain to me how using less weight is benificial?

[[email protected]]

For example curls can lift an ok amount preacher curls im lifting much less, military press im lifting more than behind neck press... how will lifting lifting less weight make you grow?

[BigWilly]

it's about stimulating the muscle group that you are targeting...

find the proper weight that stimulates your muscle the most...and then work up from there...


some people never really figure out how to stimulate the muscle and get a feel for it...a mind to muscle connection if you will...and they just jump up in weight heavier and heavier and if you are not stimulating the muscle, it doesn't matter how much weight you lift...

[flexmaster]

after i learned/felt the mind-muscle connection i was really able to bring up certain bodyparts...especially shoulders.

[asim]

Its all about control over weight. All of young guys will usually say, oh man i dont wanna drop my weights im going to see no benefits. But they havent been lifting with correct form in the first place.

Gotta learn to control the weight, remember the negative produces the most muscle stimulation.

I've found that when i started dc training my weights dropped but after 1 blast, thats right 1 blast my weights are right where they were before only im lifting with better control e.g 4 second negative and more reps, instead of 4-6 its more like 12-15 or even more. Definetly pleased with the way things are going.

[tpc]

Can anyone here say that after training like this for over 3 months that they are not so much stronger than ever before? Swallow the ego and get your form correct first of all and then remember this post when you are beating everything youve ever done by 50-100lbs months down the road

[[email protected]]

i understand that you have to lower the weight used to do the negatives. But if i do say 100lbs for barbell shoulder press then next time i do 90lbs for barbell press behind the neck with less reps how will that help?

[USMuscle9403]

Lift smarter, not heavier. Heavier comes with time...

[USMuscle9403]

Can anyone here say that after training like this for over 3 months that they are not so much stronger than ever before? Swallow the ego and get your form correct first of all and then remember this post when you are beating everything youve ever done by 50-100lbs months down the road

SHITyea! *ala Sam Jackson in Pulp Fiction*

40 lbs heavier too in terms of bodyweight!

[homonunculus]

i understand that you have to lower the weight used to do the negatives. But if i do say 100lbs for barbell shoulder press then next time i do 90lbs for barbell press behind the neck with less reps how will that help?

James, those are 2 different exercises - its not unusual to use different amouts of weight. I use more on a leg press than on a back barbell squat...

-R

[asim]

Exactly what homonunculus said. Dont try to compared weights and reps used in different exercises. With each exercise lower the weight to the point where your getting the rep range you want with controlled movement. Then build yourself back up getting as strong as hell on that exercise.

When you exceed previous weights with more reps and a controlled technique you know your progressing.

Comparing a behind neck press and military press is like comparing front squats and back squats. Theres always difference in weights.

[BiggerStronger]

I wouldn't use the same weight for cable curls and preacher curls....so why would you use the same weights for other excercises that work a certain muscle group?

[BigWilly]

I get a kick out of guys that do more weight than me but look no where near as good as me...they think they have something on me...but hey this ain't powerlifting...it's bodybuilding.

[jimpaul]

Hey [email protected], the bottom line answer to this thread of yours is that with Dante's training we need to have 3 exercises for each bodypart to rotate with.
They need to be 3 different exercises than the others.


work around that premise, good luck with training
jim

[MsteveM]

its already been said, but i'll say it again just for the sake of posting. next time you go to the gym and its somewhat crowded, take a look around. you'll probably notice some people doing some exercise with horribly butchered form and complaining or making excuses on why they have plateued. a simple way to fix that is by fixing the form - drop the weight a little and do the exercise correctly. the only thing i can think of that it really doesnt apply to is olympic lifts (although most bodybuilders dont do them anyways b/c they have no eccentric) since they are ballistic and proper form will allow more weight to be used.

[SweatMachine]

I feel controling the weight gets the most out of the weight your using. Use too heavy a weight and your muscle concentration is gone and youve started doing some weird kenetic compound movement that doesnt target any specif muscle or muscle group and your increase you chance of injury 10 fold. Big heavy weights that clang and bang being used by a guy that is jerking and twisting, absolutley out of form might be impressive to a bunch of kids who dont know any better, but it looks very foolish to a seasoned vet.