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  • Want some fellow doggers opinions...

    I've never used any drugs or PHs up to this point and don't plan on it any time in the near future. However, months before beginning DC training (back when I had some damn money lol) I bought about $300 worth of PHs...1-AD, M1T, and post cycle supplements, fearing that they would be banned before I had the chance to purchase/try them. While I have no interest in using them right now, I may want to some time in the future. So, the opinions needed are as follows....

    1) Would you just try and sell them and get what I can for them, or keep them for the future?

    2) Do these supps have a decent shelf life, ie will they last for a few years and retain their potency?

    3) Have you ever experimented with any of these and, if so, are they even worth keeping around?

    Thanks a ton, guys.

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    Forgot to add 4-AD too.

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    • #3
      I'd sell them now while you could.
      I got tons of PH powders I bought a year ago and dumped them-never got around to using them..
      I have come to the point where I am either on or off no in between.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by BenGrowing
        1) Would you just try and sell them and get what I can for them, or keep them for the future?

        2) Do these supps have a decent shelf life, ie will they last for a few years and retain their potency?

        3) Have you ever experimented with any of these and, if so, are they even worth keeping around?

        Thanks a ton, guys.
        1. Only you can make this decision. Whether or not to use anabolics is a personal choice.

        2. From what I understand they retain their potency for quite some time. I dont know about years, would have to look into that but its possible. I'm not usre why you would want to wait years though. If I was you I would decided if I wanted to use the products and then either sell or use them. That way potency problems wont even be an issue.

        3. I have used PHs, 1-test and m1t. I got my best results from a combo of 4AD and transdermal 1-test. I also got bloated as hell, lower back pain and lethargy on the m1t. I got mediocre gains from these types of products. My best gains came from my first cycle of 4ad/1-test. Currently I am using mild dosages of the "real deal" and I can honestly say I am experiencing much better gains(obviously) and less side effects than I was using OTC stuff. So you ask if they are worth it. It varies from person to person. Some people experience good gains from these types of products. Some just get a ton of side effects. Personally, I would rather just use test. But then again we have the legal issues. So if that is the case I see nothing wrong with doing a sane cycle of PH/m1t/whatever if you are over 21 years of age, healthy and you have AT LEAST 3 years of hardcore training under your belt and 5 years would be better. Before you use these products make sure you are eating, training and resting properly. Most people dont do that. So if you are 5'10", 150I'd say you have a lot of growing to do before you even consider using anything, gear or otherwise. But, if you have been training hard for many years, eating right, gained a substantial amount of muscle and have hit a plateau that PERHAPS a PH cycle might be what you need to get to the next level. But again, this your decision and I say research, research and research some more.

        FYI I was 25 years old and training for 7 years before I touched anything besides protein powder, vitamins and creatine. I was 33 before I did a "real" cycle of gear. Words to the wise.
        Through the best and the worst
        The struggle and sacrifice.
        For the true who've remained and the new blood.
        Motivation, undying allegiance
        Striving through the hardships and affliction.
        Every drop of blood
        Every bitter tear
        Every bead of sweat
        I live for this



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        • #5
          Thanks for your opinions, guys.

          Gollum, I'm 21 and have been training for 3 years. I'm 5'9" over 200 lbs lean, so I've got some muscle (though nothing compared to some of the monsters on this board). I thought I was training right for the first 2 years, then I stumbled upon CFP 6 months ago and realized those first 2 years were pretty much wasted. Since then, my gains have been incredible, which makes me want keep accruing mass and see how far this training will take me naturally. I feel nowhere near a plateau and have always been advised to avoid anabolics until you have neared your genetic potential. I guess I'm just hoping that I'll have these around when and if I'm ready, seeing as I'd have no idea how to go about getting the real thing.

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