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Before anyone jumps on me about not reading before asking questions, let me just say that I have read every thread on here about rack deadlifts, discussed it (argued) with The Munster before, during and after doing them, but I still have a question.
I guess question is not necessarily the correct term. It's more like... I don't get them!
Prior to starting DC training we would, on occassion, do full deadlifts and regularly included straight leg deadlifts for hams. I didn't get full deadlifts until we went up in weight. We initially worked light, trying to learn the movement before adding weight. As the weights increased I started to understand what muscles were being worked and grew to like the movement...as much as is possible considering what you're doing.
As I understand the rack deads, the purpose is to eliminate the lower body portion of the full deadlift movement, allowing for greater weight usage and, therefore, greater upper and middle back development. In theory it should be simple, starting at or around the knees with the back in a set position, stand erect and squeeze at the top. But, even as the weight is increasing, I'm just not feeling them.
Today I used 115 for my work set (doing 10-12 reps only because I'm growing more irritated with each lift). I am aware that this is light weight and that I will be moving up but I don't want to move up in weight until I'm positive my technique is right. There is no pain in any part of the movement. There is no anything.
My problem with this movement is that even when I'm going light on, say, squats I can feel what muscles are doing the work (hence the irritation at the weak quads previously. Thanks, Friggin' for the help. It's working), however, I'm not feeling it on this. Doing rack deads feels no different than picking up a heavy box...its just there.
The Munster says (at serious risk of damage to his other shoulder) that it looks like I'm incorporating too much hip flexion. He says that from a bent over, knee slightly bent, and arched back position that it is my hips moving forward rather than my lower and upper back pulling the weight up that is standing me erect. My reply to him is "Of course my hips are moving forward. I'm standing up from being bent over, dumb ass!" I'm frustrated with the movement. He's frustrated with me. I'm frustrated with him. That makes me more frustrated. Help please, guys.
I need to hear opinions on this movement from someone besides my partner. Thanks.
I guess question is not necessarily the correct term. It's more like... I don't get them!
Prior to starting DC training we would, on occassion, do full deadlifts and regularly included straight leg deadlifts for hams. I didn't get full deadlifts until we went up in weight. We initially worked light, trying to learn the movement before adding weight. As the weights increased I started to understand what muscles were being worked and grew to like the movement...as much as is possible considering what you're doing.
As I understand the rack deads, the purpose is to eliminate the lower body portion of the full deadlift movement, allowing for greater weight usage and, therefore, greater upper and middle back development. In theory it should be simple, starting at or around the knees with the back in a set position, stand erect and squeeze at the top. But, even as the weight is increasing, I'm just not feeling them.
Today I used 115 for my work set (doing 10-12 reps only because I'm growing more irritated with each lift). I am aware that this is light weight and that I will be moving up but I don't want to move up in weight until I'm positive my technique is right. There is no pain in any part of the movement. There is no anything.
My problem with this movement is that even when I'm going light on, say, squats I can feel what muscles are doing the work (hence the irritation at the weak quads previously. Thanks, Friggin' for the help. It's working), however, I'm not feeling it on this. Doing rack deads feels no different than picking up a heavy box...its just there.
The Munster says (at serious risk of damage to his other shoulder) that it looks like I'm incorporating too much hip flexion. He says that from a bent over, knee slightly bent, and arched back position that it is my hips moving forward rather than my lower and upper back pulling the weight up that is standing me erect. My reply to him is "Of course my hips are moving forward. I'm standing up from being bent over, dumb ass!" I'm frustrated with the movement. He's frustrated with me. I'm frustrated with him. That makes me more frustrated. Help please, guys.
I need to hear opinions on this movement from someone besides my partner. Thanks.
) so should I due to that start the movement higher up, above my knee, to take the legs out of the movements even more?
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