back pain with test

[Pharmacist]

A friend of mine and I are currently having an argument over whether or not taking testosterone directly causes back pain. I believe there is no evidence to support his claim that a 400mg/week combo of enanthate and prop over 4 weeks has directly caused the back pain that prevents him from doing squats and power lifts. I beleive this was caused by either poor from, or his hitting baseballs and playing football in his spare time. He belives that test and back pain are directly correlated, and that once he stops taking the test, his back pain will cease. Lets hear some opinions so we can clear this up from a neutral third Does testosterone alone cause back pain? Or is this simply an error in logic?

[rugbythug]

What kind of pain? Not the pump i am assuming. I have never heard of any other body pain from test.

[Pharmacist]

he says it feels like his "disc is about to pop" or something of that nature

[In-Human]

he says it feels like his "disc is about to pop" or something of that nature

Check your PMs...

[Thors]

Could be pumps and you can definitely get them from test alone. Hard to tell though and the back is a delicate piece of machinery.

[Pharmacist]

I should also note that he says the back pain was noticable upon waking, I don't believe after working out (because after initial pain, he cut anything inolving back out of his program)

[Doggcrapp]

water, bodyweight gain, overuse (baseball football weight training)--I dont know a trainee of mine's (natural or enhanced) back that hasnt blown up on them after walking around for hours or after some weight training sessions. If your body is used to carrying 250lbs and all of a sudden its now carrying 275lbs, what part of the body do you think is going to take the brunt of that weight increase (the axis)

[Pr0nDog]

water, bodyweight gain, overuse (baseball football weight training)--I dont know a trainee of mine's (natural or enhanced) back that hasnt blown up on them after walking around for hours or after some weight training sessions. If your body is used to carrying 250lbs and all of a sudden its now carrying 275lbs, what part of the body do you think is going to take the brunt of that weight increase (the axis)

the feet?

[Pharmacist]

Yes I agree with those factors all affecting your back's condition, I remember after a set of hyperextensions while I was "on" that put the most painful and unbearable cramp in my back for over an hour. But here's the catch: Within that first month of taking test, he was complaining of not seeing any results, and that he felt the same size. And also, like you said there are a number of factors that can cause back pain at any given time, but he claims that was the test is SINGLE HANDEDLY responsible for his back pain... and this is upon waking, not after a strenuous powerlifting workout.

[James]

water, bodyweight gain, overuse (baseball football weight training)--I dont know a trainee of mine's (natural or enhanced) back that hasnt blown up on them after walking around for hours or after some weight training sessions. If your body is used to carrying 250lbs and all of a sudden its now carrying 275lbs, what part of the body do you think is going to take the brunt of that weight increase (the axis)

True that.

If i'm standing for more than an hour.... it feels like there is a rugby game going on in my spine. Guess it's the price I pay for being over 250 lbs since I was 13 (Now 19, Slowly turning it all into muscle of course). I'll take 8 years of football and heavy training for the win. It does suck, but you get used to it.

As far as the test being related to your friend's back pain... I havn't the slightest

[Massive G]

Back pain?...Could be your liver...