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    If I accomplish 2 things in all of this its these two points I hope you guys realize

    a) that after you realize how bombed you are after one rest pause set or 2 sets of legs (4-8 and 20 repper)---that you were really training alot easier than you thought when you were doing your 8-20 set routines (and you thought you were hardcore back then)----what sucks now is its very hard to go back--if you ever want to try going back to those kind of routines your going to find that you taught yourself how to train so psychotically hard this way that its going to be very very difficult to go back and "ease up"

    b)when your training 3 days on and one day off or 2 days on and one day off or 5 days on and 2 days off like alot of others do, taking a day off when your burnt out doesnt do much because your usually training the next day anyway(and the day after that). This leads to alot of overtraining problems. With our way of doing things whenever you feel kind of burnt out or got some awful sleeping in I want you to take the day off and then just pick up on the next scheduled day of lifting--I WANT YOU TO DO THAT. Now think about it--your feeling kind of burnt out on a thursday and friday your kind of dragging ass too--you take friday off--you now have thurs, fri, sat and sun off (4 days!) Trust me by the time Monday comes around youll be good as new and raring to go. Same with if you take off wenesday--you then have tues wen and thurs off (3 days off) to fully recover from whatever was ailing you. You cannot get that kind of recovery in when your doing 3 days on one day off or something similiar
    @dante_trudel

  • #2
    Good post, Dante. I get really sick and tired of all these so-called 'hardcore' bodybuilders claiming they go into the gym doing 'whatever it takes' to complete a workout. Frankly, if I am not feeling my best or feel slightly burnt out, I know for a fact that I will not put 100% into a workout. Since I am not going to do my best, it will be a wasted effort and it is not even worth going.
    Allen

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    • #3
      bump ,, good post, i actually realized that today when i worked out with my buddy,,, im on a cruise i thought why not go with him,, but he's the guy that likes to do incline db, flat db, cable flyes.. 4sets 8-10 reps ,, after one set (working) i was burnt 90lbs db for 15 reps ,, so i told him ill spot him,, did my chest stretch and the rest of my routine was rp,, back/tris/chest, (not in that order) . i just couldnt believe how brainwashed i was and when i told him i had 4days off , he just shook his head and said thats too many days bro.. whatever
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      • #4
        I am the same way mobsta. When I see people doing other high volume routines I sort of shake my head at them. It seems as though everything I see someone doing in the gym I compare it to DC, which is wrong I know lol. Oh well, whatever works for them and whatever works for me.
        Allen

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        • #5
          yup, i learned my lesson on that one.... thought i could somehow pull it off. i mean, i could train when burnt out before and sometimes increase - but not w/ rest pauses i cant.. but thats ok b/c i love rest pauses.
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          • #6
            DC, I have to say after this cruise I think I worked out 4 times during this criuse, and I have never been so strong on this cruise, plus the little change that we made.

            I was so strong yesterday on my last cruise workout, I had to leave after 3 exercises I got scared that the equipment would be broke and I would have nothing to do my blast worlouts with cause I would need to find another gym...
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            • #7
              bump again.

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              • #8
                I will tell you what though


                I have had alot of days where i felt really burnt out didnt "feel" like lifting. especially on a leg day, squats in particular. 90 percent of the time this doesnt happen. But i have really had some great workouts the other 10 percent of the time.

                and those days are the best. i get there, feel crappy during the first couple of warmups. get to the later ones and start to realize, hey maybe i can do this. then have a great set and beat what i got last time by more than i usually do

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DoggCrapp
                  a) that after you realize how bombed you are after one rest pause set or 2 sets of legs (4-8 and 20 repper)---that you were really training alot easier than you thought when you were doing your 8-20 set routines (and you thought you were hardcore back then)----what sucks now is its very hard to go back--if you ever want to try going back to those kind of routines your going to find that you taught yourself how to train so psychotically hard this way that its going to be very very difficult to go back and "ease up"
                  sir, i was wondering the same thing.

                  if someone was to stop doing DC he would find all other programs impossible due to psychological factors.

                  how does one address this issue?

                  i know i cant do DC forever. im gonna do it for a specific number of weeks. for simplicity's sake we'll take 14. after 14 how do i accept another protocol?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Sentinel

                    i know i cant do DC forever. im gonna do it for a specific number of weeks. for simplicity's sake we'll take 14. after 14 how do i accept another protocol?
                    I am not DC - But why change if you are making good gains???
                    There's no need to change just for the sake of change.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by USMuscle9403
                      I am the same way mobsta. When I see people doing other high volume routines I sort of shake my head at them. It seems as though everything I see someone doing in the gym I compare it to DC, which is wrong I know lol. Oh well, whatever works for them and whatever works for me.
                      Allen

                      at some stage in my training i really enjoyed high volume workouts. i grew a lot on these to be quite honest. what really matters is what works for the individual

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BigDownUnder
                        I am not DC - But why change if you are making good gains???
                        There's no need to change just for the sake of change.
                        point. thank u for answering my question.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sentinel
                          point. thank u for answering my question.
                          :frusty: common sense dude!

                          DC for life, if you cant eat or sleep properly there is no point doing DC training, else I dont see why anyone would want to change from some variation (3way, 2way, twice week etc) of DC training....unless a) you don't want to put on muscle too quickly :nuts: b) ur a 16 year old noob and just realise you've bitten off more than you can chew
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sentinel
                            i know i cant do DC forever. im gonna do it for a specific number of weeks. for simplicity's sake we'll take 14. after 14 how do i accept another protocol?
                            why can't you do DC forever?

                            just because every other gym rat 'changes up their routine' every three months to 'keep their body offbalance' doesn't mean you have to.
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                            • #15
                              I for somereason thought the grass was greener on the other side and decided to do some BS high volume crap, and didnt know what to do with my self. I tried to do more than one excersise and buy the second one i couldnt move. I did hammer strenght incline and destroyed it, then tried to incline bench and could barley move a plate. DC is forever, even if this board were to close and all DC faded out and ther was nothing left of it i would still be beating the logbook.
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