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**Gollum** · 05-11-2004, 08:39 AM

Why don't you put a bag over your head? That way you'll be sure to get lots of tail!

Ahhhh just kiddin ya limey poof.

It's an interesting problem. I've felt that way before. I want to get cut for the summer, I want to get cut for this big night, I met a new girl I want to get cut yada yada. The thing is though, there will never be a good time to blast like hell. Something will ALWAYS be in your way. You just have to make the time. Make a decision and just go with it. To hell with what other people think.

That being said, remember if you are training and eating correctly you shouldn't be gaining gobs of bodyfat. Sure, you may gain some and hold some water but if you're turning into Jabba the Hutt you're doing something wrong.

Maybe you could time your cruise for your trip. I know I lean out quite a bit while cruising. I dont get "ripped" per se but I look pretty good.

Besides, a charming young gentleman like yourself shouldnt have anything to worry about. Or just get them drunk and they'll think you're as shredded as Brad Pitt in Fight Club.

Personally I like this choice:

-Dont give a fuck, rely on the face yada yada, eat people who call me "not cut" (didnt want to use word fat).continue with the blast to 225ibs

**rackitup** · 05-11-2004, 08:50 AM

Yeah BF isnt increasing from DC training at all, but its already there from my old SHIT routine (Super High Intensity Training---thats what I called it, even though DC is x10 as intense)

hmmmm...............................

(another question-but still hoping input from other question)

Before, I thought the maximum gain/loss a week when bulking/cutting was +/- ONE POUND A WEEK without either losing muscle or gaining too much fat.

Now you lot are puting on poundS(e.g. 3.5ibs in one week from that turdeater above me

) a week. Bulking normally be considered as the harder of the two (bulk/cut) then how much can you cut up by a week (while retaining muscle mass)??

**Gollum** · 05-11-2004, 09:01 AM

How much protein is in a turd?

I'd be willing to make a bet here. I will bet you if you follow DC's program to the letter....I mean like the Bible....in 10 weeks when you go on your trip you will actually be bigger AND leaner than you are now. I'm not saying shredded, but leaner than you are now.

I honestly have no idea how much you can gain/lose per week. There are so many variables. Maybe some one else can help on that one. I dont like to put limits on myself. I used to do that. When I signed on with DC I was about 180 and told him I wanted to be 200lbs.

He said "Nay, 220 is pretty thick at 5'5" "

I thought he was crazy. Then I hit 200lbs and said "Hey! Look at me! Only 20 more pounds to go, right?"

And he said "Nay, I think 230 will be better"

Now I'm at 207 and I'm scared of what he's going to do to me when I hit 220. If he tells me he wants me to get to 300lbs at 5'5" I am going to take up butterfly collecting instead.

**rackitup** · 05-11-2004, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by Gollum
How much protein is in a turd?

Rabbits "recycle", I really think u should consider it too!

Hey Gollum, working your way up to 207ibs, have you done any cutting cycles--im guessing not; if so, are you leaner than when you started? I mean BF, not BF% (as BF can stay the same as mass goes up, whilst decreasing BF% at the same time)

RKP

(considering continuing doing what Im doing)

**Gollum** · 05-11-2004, 09:18 AM

I haven't done any cutting cycles. Dogg Pound Training is designed to make you a bigger you. Then when you have the mass you can worry about taking the fat off. So if you're constantly bulking/cutting/bulking/cutting you will never get to where you want to be. Or if you do, it will take forever. However, as I said during the cruises I lean out quite a bit. I'm not cutting really. I'm not starving myself or doing a wild amount of cardio. But I do reduce my food intake a bit and cut out the junk. So I get leaner.

I am slightly leaner now at 207 then when I started at 180. No bullshit. Over time DC turns you into a blast furnace. A protein processing machine. But it takes time. At first I blew up and went screaming at him like a 12 year old girl "Waaaaaaah Im getting fat!". Once you get over that hump your gold.

It's not the end of the world if you want to hold off on your blast. Of course, that means I will beat you to 225. And I'm 4 inches shorter. And older. Damn, I dont know if I could live with myself if I was a strapping young 20 year old guy at 5'9" and I let some over the hill midget beat me....

:Punch:

**rackitup** · 05-11-2004, 09:26 AM

Originally posted by Gollum
But I do reduce my food intake a bit and cut out the junk. So I get leaner

I know u cant discuss diet but i thought the diet was normally pretty clean anyway?

Originally posted by Gollum
Damn, I dont know if I could live with myself if I was a strapping young 20 year old guy at 5'9" and I let some over the hill midget beat me....
:Punch:

19!

Do u want me to go the the shops to collect ur pension, I insist i dont mind!

That last comment gets my so fired up, I completely understand about bulking/cutting/bulking etc the progress would be so slow

**Gollum** · 05-11-2004, 09:30 AM

Originally posted by rackitup
I know u cant discuss diet but i thought the diet was normally pretty clean anyway?

Yes and no. It's pretty clean but it's not tuna and rice cakes if that's what you mean. It's all about the protein and we're not too picky about where we get it.

**rackitup** · 05-11-2004, 09:38 AM

Originally posted by Gollum
Yes and no. It's pretty clean but it's not tuna and rice cakes if that's what you mean. It's all about the protein and we're not too picky about where we get it.

Gotcha! At the moment Im eating a bag of chicken breasts a day and 2cans of tuna just to mention 2 of my protein sources. But they are fat free (and thus possibly not giving me surplus calories for the day--having to supplement with a lot of virgin oil and flax seed to keep calories up and not being full up.. Would lean/normal Mince (having fat in it) be a better alternative? (gotta keep it cheap too, student budget)

**In-Human** · 05-11-2004, 10:50 AM

rackitup, Listen man, we were all young dumb and full of cum too once, now is the time to get huge, not cut, but huge, Gorrilla Maker DC makes you huge and then you can worry about eating those women, I mean dating them. The beach will always be there and so will the womens.

So lets go, get some size, if that is you in your avatar and I am sure it is, you look good, but I know deep down inside you want to be huge, so lets go eat some food and murder that damn log book...

**jimpaul** · 05-11-2004, 11:03 AM

Rackitup buddy, I'm having an issue with this main subject!!
My advice is to look at it this way, if the girls don't like your bigger, fuller, more massive muscles then the hell with them. At 19 yrs. old muscle size is uncommon for the most part. I'm sure they'll like your body. Hell most guys have a fatass anyways and it doesn't stop them from getting any!! If your eating properly, then the morning is when your going to look your tightest, so no shirt in the morning and if you play your cards right (smooth talking, charm), no shirt in the evening, haha! You'll get some!
I'd take size over cuts any day of the year!! As I always say, SIZE DOES MATTER!!

Get Stronger
jim

**BigDownUnder** · 01-12-2007, 02:28 AM

Bump

**rackitup** · 01-12-2007, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by BigDownUnder View Post

Bump

any reason, except to show my n00bness?

**yehyeah** · 01-12-2007, 05:35 PM

where you goin on ya hols,, out of couriosity,,,,,,,,,,,,,in my experience especialy european beaches ,youl probly find your self one of the only bodybuilders on the beach, and even if your not ripped your goin to look 100 times better than the fat/skinny" normal" people.......course of sunbeds before u go away wouldnt do u any harm either

just remember,,,,,no glove, no love !!!!!!!!!!!!

**rackitup** · 01-12-2007, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by yehyeah View Post

where you goin on ya hols,, out of couriosity,,,,,,,,,,,,,in my experience especialy european beaches ,youl probly find your self one of the only bodybuilders on the beach, and even if your not ripped your goin to look 100 times better than the fat/skinny" normal" people.......course of sunbeds before u go away wouldnt do u any harm either

just remember,,,,,no glove, no love !!!!!!!!!!!!

I WENT to Kavos, Majorrca, in the Med

I gloved, I loved

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