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    Wondering what the reason(s) is for dropping goodies a week or two out from a show alltogether. I hear this so often - that people with basically come off - which is just begging for estrogen rebound.

    I understand switching to non-aromatizing compounds / compounds that don't promote water retention, but why come off altogether?...

    I have more thoughts, but will leave it at that...

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  • #2
    I have talked to 2wide about this a few times and he says how him and chad allways have there clients come off everything 2 weeks out.

    I just dont understand the point

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    • #3
      I don't necesarily come off EVERYTHING, but any compounds that do promote even the most minimal amount of aromatization is gone!
      -KidRok-
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      • #4
        John Parillo always told me the worst thing you can do is come off something close to a show, due to your bodies response, be it e-rebounding or some other tpe of homeostasis. the last 4 weeks or so should be constant, per J. Parillo.
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        • #5
          I agree fellas. I think its a ploy to sabotage other competitor's preps. Add that and then some hair-brained plan to use pharm. diuretics and you're lookin' for trouble, especially during the week after the show....

          -R
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          • #6
            Originally posted by homonunculus
            I agree fellas. I think its a ploy to sabotage other competitor's preps. Add that and then some hair-brained plan to use pharm. diuretics and you're lookin' for trouble, especially during the week after the show....

            -R

            Yeh! And whose bright idea was it to do crispy cremes and pizza????? Talk about sabotage! LOL
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            • #7
              First, Krispy Kreme is spelled with "K's", not "C's".

              I am with Parrillo on this one. I just don't see it. You could keep enanthate in your plan through a show provided you countered the estrogen. Thing is, we want to make it as easy as possible to control the estrogen so we tend to go with prop or suspension. I believe that taking something out is only asking for trouble.
              About the only thing I can think of that you truly want out of there for the last couple weeks would be things like deca, EQ and orals like abombs and dbol. I know some guys androgen load with abombs but I am yet to see someone hard as hell who uses this approach.

              I also think that most gear should be run around 2-4 weeks after the show. anti e, t3, diuretics and cytadren should be run past the show and tapered in different intervals. I mean, can you imagine coming off of diuretics, t3 and cytadren just as you start chowing down on all of that shit food the day after a show?? Asking for trouble, in my opinion.

              Just my opinion.......

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              • #8
                skip is right I stoped everything and gained 35lbs in 9 days thats alot of water weight.

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                • #9
                  Rebound is a bitch. I was planning on comin off everything post competition. Water rebound im not really worried about. il watch my water intake and keep the cardio goin for a week. Im also gonna stay eatin healthy for 2 more weeks til my bodies motabolism goes back to normal. Then il pig out. :-D

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Skip
                    First, Krispy Kreme is spelled with "K's", not "C's".
                    Skip
                    Uh-oh, I've infected Skip...:showoff:

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                    • #11
                      I went to a hog roast the day after one of my contests. Drank beeer and ate BBQ all day long... in the 48 hrs after my Saturday night show I gained 26 lbs....VERY MISERABLE experience.
                      almost all of it water weight too.
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                      • #12
                        So are you guys saying I should NOT drop the prop 1 week out? Even if I up the winny to help offset? Normally I would have tren as my only injectable for the last week up to 3 days out, then oral winny and masteron up to the day of the show.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by KidRok
                          So are you guys saying I should NOT drop the prop 1 week out? Even if I up the winny to help offset? Normally I would have tren as my only injectable for the last week up to 3 days out, then oral winny and masteron up to the day of the show.
                          If it was me and I am planing on doing this I would drop the prop 1 - 1 1/2 weeks out.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by PUMPED
                            If it was me and I am planing on doing this I would drop the prop 1 - 1 1/2 weeks out.
                            And thats what I normally do, now these guys have me 2nd guessing myself!
                            Damn low-carb-lack-of-brain-function syndrome!!! :2guns:
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by KidRok
                              And thats what I normally do, now these guys have me 2nd guessing myself!
                              Damn low-carb-lack-of-brain-function syndrome!!! :2guns:
                              Kid,

                              You're good. You've done this before and were fine, so don't change it. If it ain't broke...

                              -R
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                              Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a pristine, well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, used up, worn out, and shouting, "Holy #$&^%$^... What a ride!!!"


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                              2010 NPC Jr. USA HW 4th, Pacific USA Heavy 2nd
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