Dropping compounds....

[homonunculus]

Wondering what the reason(s) is for dropping goodies a week or two out from a show alltogether. I hear this so often - that people with basically come off - which is just begging for estrogen rebound.

I understand switching to non-aromatizing compounds / compounds that don't promote water retention, but why come off altogether?...

I have more thoughts, but will leave it at that...

-Randy

[PUMPED]

I have talked to 2wide about this a few times and he says how him and chad allways have there clients come off everything 2 weeks out.

I just dont understand the point

[Kidrok (Hop)]

I don't necesarily come off EVERYTHING, but any compounds that do promote even the most minimal amount of aromatization is gone!

[SweatMachine]

John Parillo always told me the worst thing you can do is come off something close to a show, due to your bodies response, be it e-rebounding or some other tpe of homeostasis. the last 4 weeks or so should be constant, per J. Parillo.

[homonunculus]

I agree fellas. I think its a ploy to sabotage other competitor's preps. Add that and then some hair-brained plan to use pharm. diuretics and you're lookin' for trouble, especially during the week after the show....

-R

[Kidrok (Hop)]

Originally posted by homonunculus
I agree fellas. I think its a ploy to sabotage other competitor's preps. Add that and then some hair-brained plan to use pharm. diuretics and you're lookin' for trouble, especially during the week after the show....

-R

Yeh! And whose bright idea was it to do crispy cremes and pizza????? Talk about sabotage! LOL

[Ken Skip Hill]

First, Krispy Kreme is spelled with "K's", not "C's".

I am with Parrillo on this one. I just don't see it. You could keep enanthate in your plan through a show provided you countered the estrogen. Thing is, we want to make it as easy as possible to control the estrogen so we tend to go with prop or suspension. I believe that taking something out is only asking for trouble.
About the only thing I can think of that you truly want out of there for the last couple weeks would be things like deca, EQ and orals like abombs and dbol. I know some guys androgen load with abombs but I am yet to see someone hard as hell who uses this approach.

I also think that most gear should be run around 2-4 weeks after the show. anti e, t3, diuretics and cytadren should be run past the show and tapered in different intervals. I mean, can you imagine coming off of diuretics, t3 and cytadren just as you start chowing down on all of that shit food the day after a show?? Asking for trouble, in my opinion.

Just my opinion.......

Skip

[PUMPED]

skip is right I stoped everything and gained 35lbs in 9 days thats alot of water weight.

[TooPowerful4u]

Rebound is a bitch. I was planning on comin off everything post competition. Water rebound im not really worried about. il watch my water intake and keep the cardio goin for a week. Im also gonna stay eatin healthy for 2 more weeks til my bodies motabolism goes back to normal. Then il pig out. :-D

[IM^]

Originally posted by Skip
First, Krispy Kreme is spelled with "K's", not "C's".
Skip

Uh-oh, I've infected Skip...:showoff:

[SweatMachine]

I went to a hog roast the day after one of my contests. Drank beeer and ate BBQ all day long... in the 48 hrs after my Saturday night show I gained 26 lbs....VERY MISERABLE experience.
almost all of it water weight too.

[Kidrok (Hop)]

So are you guys saying I should NOT drop the prop 1 week out? Even if I up the winny to help offset? Normally I would have tren as my only injectable for the last week up to 3 days out, then oral winny and masteron up to the day of the show.

[PUMPED]

Originally posted by KidRok
So are you guys saying I should NOT drop the prop 1 week out? Even if I up the winny to help offset? Normally I would have tren as my only injectable for the last week up to 3 days out, then oral winny and masteron up to the day of the show.

If it was me and I am planing on doing this I would drop the prop 1 - 1 1/2 weeks out.

[Kidrok (Hop)]

Originally posted by PUMPED
If it was me and I am planing on doing this I would drop the prop 1 - 1 1/2 weeks out.

And thats what I normally do, now these guys have me 2nd guessing myself!
Damn low-carb-lack-of-brain-function syndrome!!! :2guns:

[homonunculus]

Originally posted by KidRok
And thats what I normally do, now these guys have me 2nd guessing myself!
Damn low-carb-lack-of-brain-function syndrome!!! :2guns:

Kid,

You're good. You've done this before and were fine, so don't change it. If it ain't broke...

-R