training starting to lag cause of ECA withdrawal...read plz

[pudge]

need to know if u guys have done this before...im still a few wks out from my show and my workouts are starting to get more and more difficult when im not using my eca stack...when im on my 2 wks of clen i come off the eca and my training drive goes way down and it makes it hard to stay focused and powerful...i know u shouldnt take eca while ur on clen but have any of u done it anyway? done it with problems or no problems at all??

pudge

[rippedchef]

Hey pudge-
I'd run your clen with ECA and whatever else will help with the BMR-I run t-3,clen and ECA the last 4 weeks-according to Skip you can run it all up to the show

[pudge]

really?? clen and ephedrine with no probs? cause if u guys say so, i'll do it..lol

pudge

[Ken Skip Hill]

I have never heard of not running clen and EC together - it is just that USUALLY guys use one or the other by switching them back and forth 2 weeks on and 2 weeks off. They don't work the same so it would benefit you to run them both at the same time, actually.

Skip

[dpsquat]

one is a beta 2 the other a beta.1 i run the gauntlet

[SweatMachine]

B1 receptors ?activate Lipase, the enzyme that breaks down fat to be used for energy as well as dilates blood vessels.- Fat mobilization

[Kidrok (Hop)]

hell I live on the eca's now. prob gonna have withdrawels when they're gone!

[midwtchamp]

I like t3,clen, and ECA...I get a lil warm though lol.....I use clen and ECA last 4 weeks all the way till show day BTW

[lionel]

What are your eca sources guys? Do you buy them individually or what?

[homonunculus]

What are your eca sources guys? Do you buy them individually or what?

You pretty much have too, as Ephedrine is only available legally as an OTC asthma med. (in the states), so packaging it with caffeine and aspirin or willow bark or whatever, is a "no-no."

http://d-n-e.com/ is a good place for OTC asthma meds...

-R

[lionel]

Vasopro is one of em right? People say they get jitters or increased HR when on eph, but i'm taking vasopro and don't feel it at all..