Texas senior sets new bench press record with astonishing 700-pound lift

[v1hyp]

Very impressive

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9SoBkWnZ2g0

[Sammich]

Damn, that was some serious bar speed.

[TLopez]

Was he held back 10 years? That an old looking senior. I doubt he gets carded. LOL

None the less, great press!

Let me guess Sammich, you quit?

[Sammich]

Was he held back 10 years? That an old looking senior. I doubt he gets carded. LOL

None the less, great press!

Let me guess Sammich, you quit?

Double-quit.

[homonunculus]

Can anyone tell what kind of bench shirt that is?...

Crazy impressive lift, but I'm always kind of thrown back by the form necessary to BP with the high end "shirts."

(Look closely at his pecs during the lift. The upper pecs at least are not even firing as he lowers the bar, but contract when he starts the press. Seems quite different than a raw lift...)

-S

[Sammich]

Can anyone tell what kind of bench shirt that is?...

Crazy impressive lift, but I'm always kind of thrown back by the form necessary to BP with the high end "shirts."

(Look closely at his pecs during the lift. The upper pecs at least are not even firing as he lowers the bar, but contract when he starts the press. Seems quite different than a raw lift...)

-S

Yeah,equipped benching is WAAAAAAY different than raw lifting.

The shirt looks like it's a Titan Katana or Super Katana. The SKs are MONSTER single-ply shirts.

[homonunculus]

Yeah,equipped benching is WAAAAAAY different than raw lifting.

The shirt looks like it's a Titan Katana or Super Katana. The SKs are MONSTER single-ply shirts.

I've heard / read several times that some shirt won't even allow a bar to touch unless it's loaded at 500lb or more. I don't know if that simply means less out of the hole loading (per the force - length characteristics of the shirt material), but I suspect it would help a tad.

-S

[Sammich]

Oh God, yes. A skilled bencher can get 200-300 pounds out of a multiply shirt. The record raw bench is 715, and the record equipped is like 1074.

[homonunculus]

Oh God, yes. A skilled bencher can get 200-300 pounds out of a multiply shirt. The record raw bench is 715, and the record equipped is like 1074.

I think that's Mendy's raw record (for now) and Kennelly shirted?...

Kennelly can bench just about 700 raw, I think, so he's getting damn near 500lb from the shirt...

-S

[theroymccoy]

What you guys think he can bench raw?

[Sammich]

What you guys think he can bench raw?

While I understand the motivation to your question, the general consensus about equipped lifting is: "Who cares?" Equipped vs. raw lifting is so different now, there's very little room for comparison. I've seen people bench in the 600s who couldn't match me raw. Does that mean I'm stronger? Nope, it just means I lift more raw and they lift more equipped.

[theroymccoy]

while i understand the motivation to your question, the general consensus about equipped lifting is: "who cares?" equipped vs. Raw lifting is so different now, there's very little room for comparison. I've seen people bench in the 600s who couldn't match me raw. Does that mean i'm stronger? Nope, it just means i lift more raw and they lift more equipped.

I'm the one asking the questions around here...just answer the question, frogface. :smow:

Okay but seriously...why is that? My ignorance has always likened shirts to say, lifting straps; they just allow ANYONE to lift more...it looks like shirted and raw are very different ball games.

Let's use your situation as an example; what is it that these 600-shirt-benchers have that you don't, and what is it that you have that they don't to not match you raw? Is it just a matter of more experience with the shirt? Anatomy?

[Imprezivr6]

I'm the one asking the questions around here...just answer the question, frogface. :smow:

Okay but seriously...why is that? My ignorance has always likened shirts to say, lifting straps; they just allow ANYONE to lift more...it looks like shirted and raw are very different ball games.

Let's use your situation as an example; what is it that these 600-shirt-benchers have that you don't, and what is it that you have that they don't to not match you raw? Is it just a matter of more experience with the shirt? Anatomy?

Because it takes being technically proficient in the gear to be able to use it to its maximum potential. It is a skill all in its own.

It is like putting an inexperienced driver on a race track. Let them run a few laps in a Toyota corolla and a few more in a Lotus Exige. They might be slightly faster in the exige, but their driving skills are not advanced enough to be able to really extract the lap times the car is capable of. Put a pro driver in both of the same cars, and the difference between their lap times is going to be astronomical.

[bbjeff86]

My good friend in college was an equipped lifter, I think he would maybe hit 405-450 raw, but his last meet he hit 726 on the bench... and to what Scott eluded to he had a new shirt at one meet and couldn't get 550 to touch his chest...

Here is what Sammich is getting at though. Lifters who use shirts, suits, briefs, etc. rarely if ever train raw, or full range of motion on movements. To get 200+ pounds out of the gear then you have to train in gear most of the time, or the top end of movements, since you get so much help out of the whole or off the bottom. If I threw on a bench shirt it would probably only give me a few pounds extra if any, because I have no idea how to use it. Not sure if that makes sense, but maybe 53Greystreet can chime in some on this too...

[46er]

When I saw "Senior", I was thinking Sammich. When I watched the vid, I thought, wait that guy doesn't look old.