Does anyone know the exact chemical composition of SYNTHELATOR™ (adenosine monophosphate)?
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Originally posted by IM^
Does anyone know the exact chemical composition of SYNTHELATOR™ (adenosine monophosphate)?
I believe its in a water base. There may be some B12 in there, too, as its red if I recall (not sure).
-Randy
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Big A? Illuminate me please Randy. Yes it is obviously water-based, but that is like saying "I read a book".I need precise details about this. I would also like to know what exact type of AMP they are using as there are various derivatives. Yes I do seem to ask the toughest questions don't I? Nature of the beast. :p
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Originally posted by IM^
Big A? Illuminate me please Randy. Yes it is obviously water-based, but that is like saying "I read a book".I need precise details about this. I would also like to know what exact type of AMP they are using as there are various derivatives. Yes I do seem to ask the toughest questions don't I? Nature of the beast. :p
It could have been oil or glycol based, rather than dissolved in water.
<As a side note, I guess unless you actually to the physical chemistry tests yourself, knowing whats really in these kinds of things (e.g., reading labels) is all like "reading a book." LOL>
Do you mean the source of the AMP when you say derivatives (where was it derived)?... E.g., if it is bovine or rabbit-derived?... It may be a sodium salt before put into solution, but AMP is AMP. Of course, the pH will determine whether it adenosine monophosphate or Adenosine monophosphoric acid.
Am I getting warmer?... LOL
-R
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I need to know what adenosine was used (I was referring to chemical derivatives, there are many structural forms of AMP and not all chemical structures work the same way) and what vehicle was used in the solution. Basically, I wanted a chemical breakdown on the stuff. Oil cannot have been used because it delays absorption - one of the characteristics of AMP, namely the fast action, stems from the use of water rather than oil as a vehicle.
Are you getting warmer?? Hey, don't say that to me, say that to Crank, it turns him on.
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Originally posted by IM^
I need to know what adenosine was used (I was referring to chemical derivatives, there are many structural forms of AMP and not all chemical structures work the same way) and what vehicle was used in the solution. Basically, I wanted a chemical breakdown on the stuff. Oil cannot have been used because it delays absorption - one of the characteristics of AMP, namely the fast action, stems from the use of water rather than oil as a vehicle.
Are you getting warmer?? Hey, don't say that to me, say that to Crank, it turns him on.
I hear ya on the oil, too - I wasn't sure at what level you were asking your question, ya sneaky bastard!!! LOL.
I would HOPE that its 5'-AMP, as this is the biological form that is produce by adenylate kinase under conditions of high energy demand (when vasodilation enhances substrate and O2 flow to the exercising muscle).
I guess it could be 2'-AMP or 3'-AMP if they're producing it via polynucleotide or nucleic acid hydrolysis. I don't know if the latter two are even biologically active as vasodilators.
I bet Crank's all fired up, now... LOL
Can ya tell your reasons for asking these questions?...
-R
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a pristine, well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, used up, worn out, and shouting, "Holy #$&^%$^... What a ride!!!"
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2010 NPC Jr. USA HW 4th, Pacific USA Heavy 2nd
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I just needed to know if there was one particular isomer that was the most potently active as a vasodilator. I was thinking of 3',5'-adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) but I was hoping Synthetek would know this better (and be willing to share) seeing they are using a form that has been confirmed far and wide to act efficiently. I just needed to know which one they are using and what vehicle it is administered in, preferably also with the pH it is best active at.
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Ah-ha! You think they're using cAMP?!?!?
You ARE sneaky... OK, so are you thinking off adding something like a nucleotidase a/o a PDE to this mix, minus the co-factors necessary for catalysis (which would be available when the mix was introduced biologically)?... (The ecto forms of those, I think they're called...)
Which is more vasoactive?
3'5'cAMP
5'AMP
Adenosine
-R
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a pristine, well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, used up, worn out, and shouting, "Holy #$&^%$^... What a ride!!!"
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2010 NPC Jr. USA HW 4th, Pacific USA Heavy 2nd
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Originally posted by IM^
That was what I needed to find out actually...an answer from the people concerned would save me a lot of time on the research.
-R
Life's journey is not to arrive at the grave safely in a pristine, well-preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, used up, worn out, and shouting, "Holy #$&^%$^... What a ride!!!"
www.TrueNutrition.com
2012 NPC Master's Nationals HW 5th. Mid-USA HW & Overall
2010 NPC Jr. USA HW 4th, Pacific USA Heavy 2nd
2009 NPC Mr. Arizona HW & Overall, Jr. Nationals HW 16th, Smoked at USA's
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