How do you do with HCG.. dosage and so on....?
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During long cycles, 16+ weeks, I would run hcg @ 500iu's 2 consecutive days a week, every 2 weeks...starting about the 6th weekAnyone can become angry - that is easy, but to be angry with the right
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Too much good info to reproduce here: http://www.professionalmuscle.com/fo...?threadid=1190
I follow this protocol.
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60% Nutrition - 25% Workout - 10% Rest - 5% Supplementation
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Taken from Ryno at Musclemayhem...
"The purpose of HCG is to mimick LH and stimulate your Leydig cells in the testis to start up again. HCG will increase your production of testosterone, and because of this will also increase estrogen. This is good and bad. Using an aromatase inhiitor will keep estrogen levels suppressed, but that is in no way a good thing and will cause more problems than an the high estrogen would. Both hormones are necessary to reset your hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular system, but excessive amounts of either with inhibit the system yet again. Exogenous testosterone will lead to high test and high estrogen levels which causes the testicular inhibition. When you withdrawl from the test your natural test production will be next to zero and your estrogen levels will be elevated well above baseline, and this estrogen causes negative feedback on the beta-ER in your hypothalamus and keeps LH secretion suppressed. After a period of time your test will rebound if HCG is used to stimulate production, and the abnormally high estrogen will subside once the exogenous test source is removed. IMO the HCG is an absolute must if your cycle goes much over 6 weeks with moderate doses, which of course any effective cycle will. For dosing more is definetly not better. I have seen some outrageous recommendations for HCG doses. 1000Iu eod for 10 days should be more than enough, in many cases 500iu eod will be sufficient. Larger, infrequent doses are sometimes recommended, such as 3000iu 2x/week, but that can lead to desensitization of the Leydig cells, and then you are in real trouble. 1000iu eod will be effective for 98% of the people out there and there should be very little chance of complications with that dose. Please heed that advice. Do not run it during the cycle. There is absolutely no reason to constantly stimulate your testis this way, and it will not improve your recovery time when the cycle is terminated."
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Originally posted by pumpseeker
Taken from Ryno at Musclemayhem...
"The purpose of HCG is to mimick LH and stimulate your Leydig cells in the testis to start up again. HCG will increase your production of testosterone, and because of this will also increase estrogen. This is good and bad. Using an aromatase inhiitor will keep estrogen levels suppressed, but that is in no way a good thing and will cause more problems than an the high estrogen would. Both hormones are necessary to reset your hypothalamus-pituitary-testicular system, but excessive amounts of either with inhibit the system yet again. Exogenous testosterone will lead to high test and high estrogen levels which causes the testicular inhibition. When you withdrawl from the test your natural test production will be next to zero and your estrogen levels will be elevated well above baseline, and this estrogen causes negative feedback on the beta-ER in your hypothalamus and keeps LH secretion suppressed. After a period of time your test will rebound if HCG is used to stimulate production, and the abnormally high estrogen will subside once the exogenous test source is removed. IMO the HCG is an absolute must if your cycle goes much over 6 weeks with moderate doses, which of course any effective cycle will. For dosing more is definetly not better. I have seen some outrageous recommendations for HCG doses. 1000Iu eod for 10 days should be more than enough, in many cases 500iu eod will be sufficient. Larger, infrequent doses are sometimes recommended, such as 3000iu 2x/week, but that can lead to desensitization of the Leydig cells, and then you are in real trouble. 1000iu eod will be effective for 98% of the people out there and there should be very little chance of complications with that dose. Please heed that advice. Do not run it during the cycle. There is absolutely no reason to constantly stimulate your testis this way, and it will not improve your recovery time when the cycle is terminated."
pumpseeker, that's my kind of answer bro, thanks.
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