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    I won't lie - I am a big pussy. I HATE to train biceps. I have hated to train them for years. Why? Because they HURT. lol Give me squats all day long, give me deads, bent rows and other exercises that make me feel like passing out but leave the burn of the biceps to someone with a stronger will than I. Now, I have always tolerated it and my bis, luckily, have never really lagged. I don't have huge arms but they aren't a weak point, either.

    So... in the last couple months of starting a different type of training - I am not sure that you have heard of it but it starts with "DC", I have had a difficult time with getting my workouts timed to be finished in my alotted time to get my boy out of the daycare so I have cut bis quite a few times. Yes, it could also be that I cut them because I hate them. *shrug*

    Anyway, here is my situation. I had not trained bis but 1 set in 4 weeks. I have the log book to prove it. So, before training them on Friday, I had gone 3 full weeks of no bi work at all. Back work was pretty much the only stress that they were seeing (of significance, anyway).

    Here is the kicker, ready? I grabbed a pair of dumbells that I have not curled ONE time in my 20 years of training. In short, I PRd dumbell curls and hadn't trained them in a month. It was beautiful.

    Now, what I need is someone to explain to me why I should not continue to train bis every other week at LEAST instead of weekly. I have considered this for years but hadn't done it yet. My arms are not my focus right now as my legs are not, either. Of course, they can always get bigger but my priority over the next year is chest, delts and back - in that order. I am considering going with back and chest and shoulders twice a week and arms and legs only once a week but after this recent arm situation, I have considered dropping bis to at least every other week.

    Oh, and believe me, my bis weren't overtrained coming into this last month.

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  • #2
    I know this isn't going to help you Skip.....but i also hate biceps. The prefer the feeling of not walking or exhaustion but ther burn bi's gives kills.

    Okay long story short - I tore the ligaments that conect my thumb and wasn't able to train bi's for about 6 months. Never lost any size on them and here recently when i started training them again i could still curl 70 lb DB for 10 reps. Yeah that was A PR for me also.

    So when you figure it out let me know also.
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    • #3
      Skip, Skip, Skip, did you not learn anything at PM yesterday, you are training all wrong, lol.

      Seriously, its the point of recouperation I think you have here, to tell you the truth I do not train my arms hard at all on this program and they are still 20", all these heavy ass back and just all the RP upper body is just working them to the max, indirect growth affect so to speak, thats my take on it...
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      • #4
        I agree with IH...that and you're simply a freak!
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        • #5
          i agree with IH
          indirect work will keep them up to par
          lol @ the PM thread fight
          frk
          :iagree:
          i always agree with what i say

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          • #6
            thats good to hear Skip, i got tendonitis in my forarm thats killin me right now. maybe i should take a couple weeks off. thing is that im soooo obsessive compolsive about my training.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thicknasty
              thats good to hear Skip, i got tendonitis in my forarm thats killin me right now. maybe i should take a couple weeks off. thing is that im soooo obsessive compolsive about my training.
              I treat all my tendonitis with Electrostimulation and Ultra Sound, and it usually takes me 2 weeks to fix my problem, I use heat on that spot prior to lifting then ice immediately when I am done lifting...
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              • #8
                thanx IH, my therapist has me doing stretches and 5 min. ice massages twice a day. ill ask about that electro thing. thanks

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                • #9
                  Less is best..IMO EVERYONE overtrains arms a bit and it's cumulative.
                  Yes even DC'ers from time to time...don't shoot me.
                  My arms are a "weak" point 21" but the lack of superb peak and a huge chest back and shoulders don't help the cause.
                  I train biceps directly maybe once a month or twice a blast period....6-8 weeks.

                  I do this because I do heavy ass Reverse grip regular free chins or pulldowns and most of the time reverse grip rows for my back for a stronger contraction and killing 2 birds with one stone.
                  I also absolutely HATE to train biceps alone..so my program evolved into not doing them on leg days and being 2 exhausted to do them on uper body days. I will stretch biceps though after back as they usually are worked to death.
                  ma the same way with triceps although I will use a stretching movement.
                  My tris get hammered by 2 pressing movements so I see no need to throw in a third for triceps aka Close Grips.
                  Don't get me wrong I love CG's I just prefer lying and standing extensions many variations for the most part.
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                  • #10
                    Mod G, You know I for one cannot do extentions of any kind for two long due to Tendonitis on my elbows, but the RGBP and CGBP put major size on my tri and strength so I can do some damage to my pecs like no other exercises...
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by In-Human
                      Mod G, You know I for one cannot do extentions of any kind for two long due to Tendonitis on my elbows, but the RGBP and CGBP put major size on my tri and strength so I can do some damage to my pecs like no other exercises...
                      LOL ...I do love CG's and miss them but 2 years ago I popped my rotator with a severe strain and I think a mini tear..so after 8 months of pain and working through it I stay away from them...prolly the same reason as you we are beat up!
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Massive G
                        prolly the same reason as you we are beat up!
                        Story of our lives huh, lol...
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by In-Human
                          Story of our lives huh, lol...
                          Ya I like to be old though life is sooo much easier...I envy the young guys coming up but would never trade places with them....too much hassle to do school, relationships and a career along with learning your body...ALL over again.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Massive G
                            Ya I like to be old though life is sooo much easier...I envy the young guys coming up but would never trade places with them....too much hassle to do school, relationships and a career along with learning your body...ALL over again.
                            Yes but to have a new lower back, new rotators, new elbows, new wrists, and just to have the knowledge we have now so we would not have to trial and error everything and waste so much time getting to where we are today, I am not saying it wasn't fun doing all this, but it would be nice to fast track earlier in our BBing career, oh that would be nice, did I mention being a virgin too, oh well another thread maybe...
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                            • #15
                              skip, just take the pain... thats what im told to do by my family and friends...i know that probably doesnt help, but u know what u gotta do...

                              pudge
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