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Anyone have any more details on this? I think he was a physique guy but he died on stage last weekend in Florida. He was allegedly working with a well-known prep guy.
Skip
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There are a few physique guys at my gym and they've told me the same story, I tried searching for details but I haven't found anything yet, so I'm also curious to know.
"If you're ready to do DC, you're not gonna give a flying f*(k about fatigue from the previous exercise. You get under the bar and kill it, each and every time." - homonunculus
"Nothing better than coming to IM and seeing a Wall of Text next to that big Tricep pic." - Lonnie123
“Hateful to me as the gates of Hades is that man who hides one thing in his heart and speaks another.” - Homer
The scale doesn't show a number. When he steps on it, it simply reads: Big Mother Fucker. - Skip
"If you're ready to do DC, you're not gonna give a flying f*(k about fatigue from the previous exercise. You get under the bar and kill it, each and every time." - homonunculus
"Nothing better than coming to IM and seeing a Wall of Text next to that big Tricep pic." - Lonnie123
“Hateful to me as the gates of Hades is that man who hides one thing in his heart and speaks another.” - Homer
The scale doesn't show a number. When he steps on it, it simply reads: Big Mother Fucker. - Skip
CAVEAT: I have know idea who this guy is or why he died. For all I know he could have been struck by lightning and it was completely unavoidable. The following comments are about competitive bodybuilding in GENERAL.
From a Dave Draper article:
When we returned to the front office, Arthur Jones appeared. He operated in what I recognized as his familiar lecture mode. Casey (Viator)lit up a cigarette, as Jones told me to pay attention. He was about to demonstrate why Casey would always be in a different physical dimension than the one I (and almost everyone else on the planet) occupied, and for reasons unrelated to how either Viator or I trained.
These deaths do not surprise me. I can't find it now, but read the quote one time where Casey Viator (heavy smoker) once said after being asked about smoking and the dichotomy of being a healthy bodybuilder "Yes I smoke, and whoever told you bodybuilding was healthy lied to you...." This is true today. You can't tell me eating so many surplus calories, taking copious "supplements", messing with insulin, taking fat burners, stimulants, extreme dieting etc. is healthy. Sure its healthier than sitting on the couch and eating hot dogs all day (well maybe it isn't but at least its close), but it is not healthy compared to someone who lives life in moderation. Like my buddy said, "I am going to be a bodybuilder, I will die young but they will bury me in a big casket." He died before 40. But he was big!
CAVEAT: I have know idea who this guy is or why he died. For all I know he could have been struck by lightning and it was completely unavoidable. The following comments are about competitive bodybuilding in GENERAL.
From a Dave Draper article:
When we returned to the front office, Arthur Jones appeared. He operated in what I recognized as his familiar lecture mode. Casey (Viator)lit up a cigarette, as Jones told me to pay attention. He was about to demonstrate why Casey would always be in a different physical dimension than the one I (and almost everyone else on the planet) occupied, and for reasons unrelated to how either Viator or I trained.
These deaths do not surprise me. I can't find it now, but read the quote one time where Casey Viator (heavy smoker) once said after being asked about smoking and the dichotomy of being a healthy bodybuilder "Yes I smoke, and whoever told you bodybuilding was healthy lied to you...." This is true today. You can't tell me eating so many surplus calories, taking copious "supplements", messing with insulin, taking fat burners, stimulants, extreme dieting etc. is healthy. Sure its healthier than sitting on the couch and eating hot dogs all day (well maybe it isn't but at least its close), but it is not healthy compared to someone who lives life in moderation. Like my buddy said, "I am going to be a bodybuilder, I will die young but they will bury me in a big casket." He died before 40. But he was big!
I agree. What we do isn't the least healthy thing in the world, but it's far from the most healthy. I have told my family and friends several times... I plan to die young.
You are on your own because I have absolutely NO intentions of dying young. There are risks in this sport, of course, but taking precautions and monitoring your health will help to minimize those risks. Not everyone is on a mission to die young in this sport.
Skip
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Anyone have any more details on this? I think he was a physique guy but he died on stage last weekend in Florida. He was allegedly working with a well-known prep guy.
Skip
From everything I've heard heart attack, supposedly had a pre existing condition and worked with Don Long
Are you referring to that incident that was spread by a certain other coach all over the internet and FB? The one that involved an amputation?
If so, then the prep guy accused in the matter was not involved, he had lost contact with the guy for nearly 3 months I believe.
Thats same one i was thinking of. I had no idea it was spread by another coach and all that though. Will have to look it back up though because thats really shitty of someone to do that.
I agree with what is being said about this not being a "healthy" sport/hobby but you can make that same argument about almost everything we do in life. Everytime i get on my motorcycle its a risk, but when you wear a helmet are not careless/reckless you drop the risk down vs someone who is out riding balls out all the time. I feel same way about bbing. Its a risk sure but when things are done in moderation I don't think your running to an early grave. Before i got into bbing I was a heavy drinker, smoked some, and ate terrible. I like my long term odds with my current lifestyle over the other.
Yeah, I am not saying bodybuilding is "unhealthy" as it varies WIDELY from person to person. My point is, the words bodybuilding and health are NOT synonymous. As a matter of fact, in some (many) cases, it is the opposite (as I detailed in my first post). But, in many cases they do go hand in hand. It's on the person, not the sport.
You are on your own because I have absolutely NO intentions of dying young. There are risks in this sport, of course, but taking precautions and monitoring your health will help to minimize those risks. Not everyone is on a mission to die young in this sport.
Skip
Oh, I didn't mean to imply that everyone in the sport had a death wish or anything, haha. I was just speaking for myself, and only myself. I honestly have no desire to live a "long life". I'll do my best to enjoy my time here, but I really am waiting to get out of this shit hole. Death seems a fine alternative.
Yeah, I am not saying bodybuilding is "unhealthy" as it varies WIDELY from person to person. My point is, the words bodybuilding and health are NOT synonymous. As a matter of fact, in some (many) cases, it is the opposite (as I detailed in my first post). But, in many cases they do go hand in hand. It's on the person, not the sport.
I completely agree.
Skip
Facebook: Skip Hill
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Anyone have any more details on this? I think he was a physique guy but he died on stage last weekend in Florida. He was allegedly working with a well-known prep guy.
Skip
Skip.
Yes his name was Randy. I have a pretty good idea what happened and can IM you what I know if you want.
Joe
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