Beginners… fat or muscle first

[Dodgie82 New Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dodgie82]

Build muscle and strength first or lost da fat, as someone who is still at beginner stage, what should I focus on getting bigger and stronger. Or lost the extra fat I got. Ive got about 30% BF.
Any response what be great


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[dice77 Heavyweight Member Find all posts View Profile Close dice77]

Weight training burns a lot of calories and the more muscle you have the more cals you will burn. With proper nutrition, you can do both.

[dakota1981 Bantamweight Member Find all posts View Profile Close dakota1981]

I dont see why you couldnt do both, unless there is a specific reason you would need to focus on weight loss (medical, personal).

[nexa Intense Muscle Competitor Find all posts View Profile Close nexa]

Define "beginner stage." What does your typical diet and training look like now, if any?

[Dodgie82 New Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dodgie82]

Ok, my diet looks like this

Meal 1, 3 eggs scrambled
1/2 cup oats wit cocco and Splenda for flavor

Meal2 WPI 2 scoops no fat yogut and banana

Meal 3 150gs chicken 150gs sweet potato 1/4 cup broccolli

Meal 4 same as meal 2 but some other no banana

Meal 5 same as meal 3

Then it's time to hit gym.
Pre work out … pre jym!
Post work out … post gym + orange

Post work meal 3 eggs plus 1/2 cups oats

Additional I'm pumping in about 6 liters water a day

I only have one cheat meal a week and that Saturdays which is bacon and eggs and pot of coffee, with Real sugar. The rest of week no man made sugar only what I get from splenda and fruit

My post work drink has around 30gs dextros.



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[Dodgie82 New Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dodgie82]

My training,
I'm doing body part a night plus 15min pre warm up cardio
Then 40-45 min weight followed by 20min HIIT cardio

Day1 weight + cardio
Day2 weight + cardio
Day3 off weight just cardio 30min
Day 4 weight cardio
Day5 weights cardio
Day6 weight cardio
Day 7 OFF active rest


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[itsfine New Member Find all posts View Profile Close itsfine]

Eat more


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[Sammich Moderator/Intense Muscle Competitive Powerlifter 275lb Raw Club Total 1625 Find all posts View Profile Close Sammich]

Take it from a former/current/future fat guy. Strip the fat first. It's just better all around.

[itsfine New Member Find all posts View Profile Close itsfine]

Take it from a former/current/future fat guy. Strip the fat first. It's just better all around.

I agree but Slow, steady and healthy


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[Dodgie82 New Member Find all posts View Profile Close Dodgie82]

Eat more


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How much more?


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[martin_h Middleweight Member Find all posts View Profile Close martin_h]

It depends.


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[itsfine New Member Find all posts View Profile Close itsfine]

How much more?


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Idk anything about your situation besides 30% bf and your current diet


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[LKQSJH Intense Muscle Competitor Find all posts View Profile Close LKQSJH]

This is just my opinion and just to be clear I am far from an expert and don't even really like giving advice because i don't want to give bad advice but here it goes . . .

You probably didn't get to 30%bf by lifting 5x a week, cardio 6x a week and eating a diet that looks anything close to what you posted. I would look back at what you have been doing. I'm all for doing as little as possible to get results. If you have been eating a not so clean diet and not going to the gym then the workouts alone are probably enough for a caloric defecit. I would figure the total cals you were eating, eat close to that but with cleaner food choices and see where that takes you. When that quits working then add a little cardio or clean up something else in your diet. From what you posted it just seems your going to stall and have no where to go.

[martin_h Middleweight Member Find all posts View Profile Close martin_h]

This is just my opinion and just to be clear I am far from an expert and don't even really like giving advice because i don't want to give bad advice but here it goes . . .

You probably didn't get to 30%bf by lifting 5x a week, cardio 6x a week and eating a diet that looks anything close to what you posted. I would look back at what you have been doing. I'm all for doing as little as possible to get results. If you have been eating a not so clean diet and not going to the gym then the workouts alone are probably enough for a caloric defecit. I would figure the total cals you were eating, eat close to that but with cleaner food choices and see where that takes you. When that quits working then add a little cardio or clean up something else in your diet. From what you posted it just seems your going to stall and have no where to go.

Perfectly good advice..you should believe in your replies more
Good to see more people getting involved.

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[itsfine New Member Find all posts View Profile Close itsfine]

YouTube Milo's Sarcev and watch his seminars, very helpful. Plus u got skip on the forum


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