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  • Raspberry ketones - your experiences?

    Just wanted to get your guy's experiences with raspberry ketone supplementation.

    It's included in some fat burner formulas (notably, Biotest's HOT-ROX Extreme), but the literature on it does raise some concern:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?t...etones%2C%20ar

    Raspberry ketones (RK) are commonly used for their fat burning potential (specifically their effects on hormone-sensitive lipase, I believe), but the paper above shows in vitro antiandrogenic activity.

    Just wanted your guys thoughts on this. To be honest, at first glance that sounds bad, but wouldn't inhibiting androgen receptors up-regulate androgen production so this antagonist activity would simply be negated? One supplementing with RK would hope...
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    I have used them in some topical fat loss products...The one I used worked, I don't care how much shit topical agents get. It worked. I was very lean (pretty much contest ready) with some trouble spots that just would not let the last little bit of the fat go...added in the topical (raspberry ketones were a main ingredient) and within 2 weeks I noticed it really worked. All documented with pictures...not in my head. Confirmed by others looking at the pics as well.

    Never gave much though for using them orally. IMO, to be really honest, there isn't MUCH out there that actually WORKS with OTC fatburners. Yes there are good combos, but some of the ingredients are just filler for lack of a better word.

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    • #3
      Not that this will mean much, but Dr. Oz recommends them for weight loss. He did a segment on his show about it. He is talking to fat people though, not people trying to get into contest shape.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Lock it Up View Post
        I have used them in some topical fat loss products...The one I used worked, I don't care how much shit topical agents get. It worked. I was very lean (pretty much contest ready) with some trouble spots that just would not let the last little bit of the fat go...added in the topical (raspberry ketones were a main ingredient) and within 2 weeks I noticed it really worked. All documented with pictures...not in my head. Confirmed by others looking at the pics as well.

        Never gave much though for using them orally. IMO, to be really honest, there isn't MUCH out there that actually WORKS with OTC fatburners. Yes there are good combos, but some of the ingredients are just filler for lack of a better word.

        You'll never know until YOU try it though!
        Lock, can you share what brand(s) of topical you used?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by -AJA14- View Post
          Not that this will mean much, but Dr. Oz recommends them for weight loss. He did a segment on his show about it. He is talking to fat people though, not people trying to get into contest shape.
          That's good enough for me to avoid them forever! :plane:
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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sammich View Post
            That's good enough for me to avoid them forever! :plane:
            Try getting 500 fucking calls about Raspberry Ketones the day that Dr. Oz aired his weight loss episode.. You gotta be fucking kidding me, it was ridiculous.
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            • #7
              TEAM OZ. I hear he is now doing contest prep.

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              • #8
                I took ErgoBurn, which lists raspberry ketones as its fat busting, go-to ingredient. I took it right at the beginning of my contest prep a few years ago and didn't notice much of an improvement in terms of speeding up or enhancing my weight loss. My diet and cardio were right on target, but maybe it helped a little? Who knows. All I remember is getting horrible burps from them...tasted like rotten fruit. :twitch:
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ken "Skip" Hill View Post
                  TEAM OZ. I hear he is now doing contest prep.

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                  Yeah I heard he prepped Oprah for her first contest, might need a little tinkering with his Ozload technique as she didnt quite get peeled. :pizza:

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by fade View Post
                    Try getting 500 fucking calls about Raspberry Ketones the day that Dr. Oz aired his weight loss episode.. You gotta be fucking kidding me, it was ridiculous.
                    Fade, how many calls do you get about Supplements from Dr. Oz show? He has a different supplement on almost every show.
                    Everyone wants the pill and doesn't want to do the work.
                    Yes, i watch Dr. Oz every day.
                    BTW, he says the raspberry ketones are suppose to trick your body into already thinking it is thin, so your metabolism goes faster.

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                    • #11
                      Funny I was just in GNC and some lady was buying 2 bottles of the stuff.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Nelford View Post
                        Funny I was just in GNC and some lady was buying 2 bottles of the stuff.
                        What? You mean people who don't know a fucking thing about what they're buying get things at GNC?! This is shocking and surprising news.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by -AJA14- View Post
                          Fade, how many calls do you get about Supplements from Dr. Oz show? He has a different supplement on almost every show.
                          Everyone wants the pill and doesn't want to do the work.
                          Yes, i watch Dr. Oz every day.
                          BTW, he says the raspberry ketones are suppose to trick your body into already thinking it is thin, so your metabolism goes faster.
                          I have had calls about:

                          raspberry ketones
                          7-keto dhea
                          safflower oil (really CLA)
                          saffron extract
                          cherry extract
                          relora
                          mango peach extract or some bullshit.

                          I shit you not, I have had AT LEAST 200 calls for just the raspberry ketones between my two stores.

                          50-60 calls for 7-keto

                          50 calls for saffron


                          Originally posted by Nelford View Post
                          Funny I was just in GNC and some lady was buying 2 bottles of the stuff.
                          Surprise.

                          Originally posted by Sammich View Post
                          What? You mean people who don't know a fucking thing about what they're buying get things at GNC?! This is shocking and surprising news.
                          And now they have started calling me.
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                          • #14
                            I should start a thread of all the supps, he recommends. It would be funny.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Sammich View Post
                              What? You mean people who don't know a fucking thing about what they're buying get things at GNC?! This is shocking and surprising news.
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