On a high protein, high fat, low carb cut

[jameswarren1984]

i have come across conflicting info on the net whilst doing my research, i have lowered slightly my calories per day, and switched from high carb low fat high protein to a high protein high fat low carb diet.
i read a couple of places that i should not eat the skin of chicken, as it is saturated fats, but i have also read the opposite that say it is fine as it is natural... i would like to eat the skin for 2 reasons, its fricking tasty lol, and it helps me get enough calories, as having low carbs has made me realise i have to eat loads to get calories compared with carbs.
so to skin or not to skin?

[height_11]

just out of interest, what macro's wer you on, and what are you on now?

[jameswarren1984]

well i was taking in between 350 and 400 grams carbs a day mostly rice
around 300 grams protein
around 120 grams fat but fats varied somewhat

[andrewR]

Did you switch it around because it wasn't working for you or just because you read something online? Personally, I prefer to keep carbs as high as possible for as long as possible while on a cut, only bringing them down when necessary. Sometimes getting down to really low bodyfat requires it, but this is going to depend on the individual.

well i was taking in between 350 and 400 grams carbs a day mostly rice
around 300 grams protein
around 120 grams fat but fats varied somewhat

And now? Also what are your goals? From your original post, I assumed you were cutting, but not with close to 4k calories.

[mentalflex]

As yourself three questions:
1) Does it fit within my macros for that meal?
2) Will it get me closer to achieving my goals?
3) Is there an alternative that would work more effectively in helping me reach my goals?(there are many more healthier sources of fat with higher omega contents that will aid with cardiovascular and joint health)

How you answer these should guide you.

[jameswarren1984]

yeh well my macros are as follows

non workout day...
150 carbs a day
350 protein
120 grams fats minimum

workout day the same but added simple carbs extra to post workout

[jameswarren1984]

and i dont keep same macros per meal, i have a daily macro, i try to keep protein/carb, or protein/fats re DC.

[grammo13]

Honestly, I think your macros look like a great start, and then you can adjust them as needed. Some animal fats are okay if they fit your macros, but majority should come from olive oil, nuts, natural peanut butter, eggs, etc. Ive had great results with similar macros, I weigh less then you so my fat was a little lower to start but thats it really

[jameswarren1984]

sweet grammo, i just am looking forward to losing some fat, and worked out doing the 5x5, increasing weight by 2.5 % every workout i should be benching 310 pounds in 4 months of doing it which is sick for motivation and i have heard very positive things about 5x5 in terms of strength gains, im not sure if i can possibly gain muscle tho especially on calories just under maintenance, but our bodies work in strange ways so fingers crossed

[grammo13]

sweet grammo, i just am looking forward to losing some fat, and worked out doing the 5x5, increasing weight by 2.5 % every workout i should be benching 310 pounds in 4 months of doing it which is sick for motivation and i have heard very positive things about 5x5 in terms of strength gains, im not sure if i can possibly gain muscle tho especially on calories just under maintenance, but our bodies work in strange ways so fingers crossed

Keep the mindset that you will keep getting stronger even if your calories are low. You'll be surprised, with a good routine and diet in place, strength gains will still be there.

[steel1970]

yeh well my macros are as follows

non workout day...
150 carbs a day
350 protein
120 grams fats minimum

workout day the same but added simple carbs extra to post workout

So you are at about 3500 cals to start your diet.....have you been logging your food intake recently and tracking what you eat? Are your calories above or below your maintenance level?

Yes, the skin can be tasty, but don't you think that there are far better fat sources for you to rely on? And, you're gonna average 20g of fat in each meal if you eat 6 meals. Do you really feel you need that much? I wouldn't call your diet high fat/low carb with 150g of carbs in there either, IMO.....I would say that's moderate carbs......you really need to figure your macros based on what you are eating for maintenance. To me, that means not gaining or losing weight.....lower your intake from there......

[jameswarren1984]

maybe its not low carb, but compared to how my carb intake has been it is, i was eating sh1t loads of carbs, between 350-400 sometimes more so maybe i will be dropping carbs further but for now i will see how it goes with 150, and maybe in a month re evaluate.
i was consuming around 3500 calories before, and now im going for around 2900. i will be trying to lower my fats and increase protein, but for now financially i cant afford to eat more protein and less fats, so i will see how this goes for a while, and hopefully get the job im being interviewed for this week and then will up my proteins and lower my fats so as to keep cals at 2900.

[jameswarren1984]

and yes i have been loggin everything i eat down, and weighing everything. so i know exactly what enters my body, but having a tough time with some things
such as i like to eat fresh salmon in the evening because of it being good portein source and fat source and decent calories, however the nutritional info isnt available when i buy it and theres conflicting nutritional info on the web so i have to kinda just pick a site blindly really

[jameswarren1984]

sorry 120 grams a day is wrong.... i meant 90 fats

[steel1970]

I'm sorry, I added your cals up wrong....regardless, just keep a log and make adjustments as needed.....