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  • Are we all F'ed in the Head?...

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    Homon,

    In your opinion, how much of this is lobbied by the pharm. community? It seems that in the near future everyone will be on some kind of medication based on their physician's diagnosis (which may be considered mentally healthy by today's standards).
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    • #3
      Lol, I love how nowadays there's a rush to label anything and everything a disease. Sometimes I feel like yelling to the world that "HEY, LIFE ISN'T ALWAYS ROSES AND SOMETIMES YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO FEEL SHITTY SO PUT AWAY THE FUCKING PILLS!!" People are emotional and there's nothing insane about that. In fact, if I see somebody always walking around with a massive smile on his/her face I'm more inclined to think that person is more nuts than the person who has mood swings(who doesn't have mood swings?)

      There is now a disorder called "Gender identity disorder," as well as another one called "Transsexualism." Whats even crazier is that some insurance companies buy into this shit and cover the appropriate treatments. With these kind of psychopaths in charge of the field of medicine, it's no wonder a book like that is being published.
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      • #4
        Originally posted by TLopez View Post
        Homon,

        In your opinion, how much of this is lobbied by the pharm. community? It seems that in the near future everyone will be on some kind of medication based on their physician's diagnosis (which may be considered mentally healthy by today's standards).
        I don't have any first hand info. here, but my best friend is a counselor and she's of the opinion (as am I) that that's a huge part of it.

        Dakoose's point is hits it home. More disorders / diseases means more things to be coded for and billed for...and prescriptions to be written for.

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        • #5
          That person with the smile on their face has probably already taken their happy pills for the day, haha. It's sad that's it's becoming the norm to be screwed up in the head. The normal folks out there are no longer normal. Doctors act surprised when they ask, what medications are you on, "none". "Oh really?" Part of it could be the big bad Pharm companies, but I think another major part is the fact that people can't man up and realize sometimes things in life are just going to be FUBAR until you work them out logically.

          I'm not discrediting people who genuinely have disorders and such, but I'm pretty sure misdiagnosing patients is on the rise because nowadays the only test usually done is you telling the doctor what kind of symptoms you're having.
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          • #6
            Short answer, yes.

            Long answer, while I agree that some diagnoses are BS (and that big pharma is pushing pills for EVERYTHING), we're also starting to uncover the dirty underbelly of our society and discover that much less mentally healthy than we thought.
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            • #7
              I think TLopez brings up a very valid point, big medicine and pharmaceuticals may, or likely, have a significant impact in the creation of such labels and absurd conditions.

              With so much diagnosing and categorizing our (meaning society in general, not everyone) perception of what is "normal" has become completely skewed. When something is slightly wrong, all of a sudden they think they MUST have a condition and search for information to back their point. It is only human to experience emotions and live through life's ups and downs, experience joy, elation, sadness, anger, remorse, satisfaction, pride and pleasure...these are part of life and make it worth living. I can go on, but I won't. I just think these kinds of books and labels are really contorting the perceptions of life experiences and what is "normal" in the grand scheme.
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              • #8
                Take this for example: The Autistic Spectrum. That's a real thing doctor's use nowadays. What is it? Per Wikipedia:

                These disorders are typically characterized by social deficits, communication difficulties, stereotyped or repetitive behaviors and interests, and/or cognitive delays.
                There has been an insane growth in the number of children diagnosed with an autistic spectrum disorder(whatever the fuck that is), and that's either due to some very prevalent mutation developed within this last generation or a change in the methods of diagnosis.....which do you think it is?

                Let me be clear: The advancements in medicine are amazing and I'm all for providing medication for those that truly need it, but the industry has gone from giving medication to those that need it to giving medication to those that want it or think they need it. I think the primary field gone awry is the mental health field, as it has the most room for interpretation.

                Bottom line is that for me, I'm skeptical of damn near every medicinal study and development I hear about, especially of those with regards to the aforementioned mental health disorders. I remember just 15 years ago in my elementary school classes there was one, maybe two kids with ADD, ADHD, etc. Last week I was talking to my little brother who's a freshman in high school and he knows of loads of kids taking some type of medication. This shit is fucked up...potentially creating all types of issues down the road by forcing meds on kids at such a young age. Shame on the doctors and shame on the parents.
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                • #9
                  That's a funny statement in that article... Soon no one will be normal... Um... Isn't that impossible??
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                  • #10
                    I had a first hand experience with meds being pushed. About a month or so ago I went in for a physical and while I was there I asked to have my hormone levels checked now that I am 35. The first thing the Dr. asked was if I wanted viagra or cialis, before any blood work was done or even asking if I had e.d. (fyi, I don't). I was called a week later and told (over the phone) that my testosterone was at a normal level, and again asked if I wanted dick pills, they could be phoned in to my local CVS pharmacy right away. WTF!
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                    • #11
                      The ADD drug issue is just staggering....There was no such thing as ADD or ADHD when I was a kid, there were just hyper, bad kids.....we used to call it being "sugared up".....there were certain kids who were just whacked outta their mind after a few cups of Kool Aid....lol. Next time you see a kid who's ADD or ADHD, take notice to the type of parenting that's going on.....alot of the kids I know with that diagnosis are bad kids with even worse parenting, which IMO is why they are bad.....
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by steel1970 View Post
                        The ADD drug issue is just staggering....There was no such thing as ADD or ADHD when I was a kid, there were just hyper, bad kids.....we used to call it being "sugared up".....there were certain kids who were just whacked outta their mind after a few cups of Kool Aid....lol. Next time you see a kid who's ADD or ADHD, take notice to the type of parenting that's going on.....all the kids I know with that diagnosis are bad kids with even worse parenting, which IMO is why they are bad.....
                        Yeah, and the parents are probably happy to give their kids pill after pill as it allows them to believe their kids act like idiots because of some disorder, not the shitty job they did raising their children.
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                        • #13
                          I worked at a summer camp this past summer and saw "ADD" in action. It's just an excuse for the kids to misbehave and the parents to relieve themselves of responsibility. In one particular case, a mom dropped her son off and said "he didn't take his pill today, so expect him to be in trouble the whole time" right in front of the kid! True to his mom's expectation, he was awful from the start. Then, one of the women in charge pulled him aside and told him his mom didn't give him his pill because he didn't need to take the it anymore (probably an ethics violation.... oh well), and his attitude turned around instantly and he behaved the rest of the day. I realize anecdotes don't prove anything, but I thought it was a telling incident.

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                          • #14
                            I was listening to one of the leading DR's in Aust on the radio a few yrs ago. He did not believe in ADHD and said it was a socialising problem most often comming from stress due to poor family situations at critical stages of infant development (translate: poor parents).

                            He said he does use the term "ADHD" though but in the context of teens and adults being stupid ie Absolute Dick Head Disorder.

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