Smith machine presses for delts?

[Carlito Gambino]

Who has experience with these? I've been reading up on some of Cephalic_Carnage's stuff over at T-Nation and he seems to swear by these high incline Smith presses. I've never used a Smith for any type of delt work but I'm thinking of giving these a shot if the progression rate on them is decent. Just to clarify I'm talking about these:

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[ONCE AGAIN]

Who has experience with these?

lol, that's a military press in a smith machine, nothing special...

[theroymccoy]

Feels good man.

You can really grind out reps without having to worry about zapped energy from setting up with a free bar. Shoulder feels secure and even if it does hit some of the upper chest, who cares because everybody needs more upper chest anyway, amirite?

The only downside is trying to get the bench/seat consistently in the same position every workout. I'm sure it doesn't matter a whole lot but I'm a stickler for that. If you want to get really creative, take pics of the bench/seat in relation to the Smith machine, or if they don't mop the area frequently, make chalk marks around the feet/wheels.

[Carlito Gambino]

lol, that's a military press in a smith machine, nothing special...

Of course it's nothing special but I've always gone with standing pressing variations and I rarely use a Smith. I was wondering what people's experiences with it were, how it felt, what sort of set up they were using, etc.
I never implied it was some sort of secret, magical exercise.

[Carlito Gambino]

Feels good man.

You can really grind out reps without having to worry about zapped energy from setting up with a free bar. Shoulder feels secure and even if it does hit some of the upper chest, who cares because everybody needs more upper chest anyway, amirite?

The only downside is trying to get the bench/seat consistently in the same position every workout. I'm sure it doesn't matter a whole lot but I'm a stickler for that. If you want to get really creative, take pics of the bench/seat in relation to the Smith machine, or if they don't mop the area frequently, make chalk marks around the feet/wheels.

LOL...I know what you mean, I'm a bit OCD about seat positioning as well. Or hand positioning, or foot positioning...well you get the idea.

[thedunhill225]

What ya can do.... stay with me here..... is next time you train delts .... still with me????.... um.... try them! Lol to be clear here I am joking in an effort to state the obvious ;-)

[theroymccoy]

What ya can do.... stay with me here..... is next time you train delts .... still with me????.... um.... try them! Lol to be clear here I am joking in an effort to state the obvious ;-)

Wait...so what you're trying to say iiiisssss...




...I lost you

[Carlito Gambino]

Yeah, man, you lost me after "stay with me here".

[Karlm]

I use them but I keep my chin down almost looking down when I do them, at least for me i feel it more in the delt

[Karlm]

Another good delt exercise is the hammer strength except sit facing the seat

[Carlito Gambino]

I've heard about this facing the seat business a lot lately, what's the reasoning behind it? More lateral delt involvement? I read about doing DB presses facing the seat as well.

[Karlm]

It seems to take away the ability to lean back, focusing more on the delt and less on the upper chest

[slide]

Regarding the smith press in the video, that is one of my favorites for shoulders. Shouldnt have any issues re: progression with those.

Give em a try...

-slide

[homonunculus]

What ya can do.... stay with me here..... is next time you train delts .... still with me????.... um.... try them! Lol to be clear here I am joking in an effort to state the obvious ;-)

I've heard about this facing the seat business a lot lately, what's the reasoning behind it? More lateral delt involvement? I read about doing DB presses facing the seat as well.

CG, don't listen to Dunhill here on this. Keep on asking questions like you have been. This is the best way to really know an exercise inside and out.



-S

[Carlito Gambino]

Thanks, Homon, I know he was joking though ...or was he?

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