Question for National Qualfication...

[Ken Skip Hill]

For all of the competitors out there (and if you don't compete you can still chime in), I have a question for you:

If you qualify for national level competition right now, you have 2 years from the date of qualification to compete nationally and then you lose the qualification and have to requalify.

Personally, I don't like the current 2 year deal. First, I would wonder if you should ever have to requalify. I mean, the current state of bodybuilding at the National level is going down as far as contestants at these shows (evidenced by the Jr. USA this year). It MAY increase contestant numbers.

More importantly, I don't think it is fair to competitors who have NOT qualified and are competing to do so when a national level competitor comes back to compete in his or her state show only because they have to requalify. I have seen this time and time again where guys will not get their qualification because they were beaten by someone who only competed for the requalification. It doesn't seem terribly fair.

I wonder, either you qualify and you are qualified forever or at least longer than 2 years - maybe 5 years? 2 years just isn't all that long and if you can't compete in that time frame for some reason, you are screwed and have to go back and requalify.

What do you guys think?

Skip

[Trapzilla]

Good point Skip.
My first bodybuilding show was the Mike Francois in C-bus Ohio and it was loaded with bros trying to requalify for nationals. Guys as far as California and Utah came to the Midwest to compete. The guy who took the overall was from Utah.

Personally it was a hell of a learning experience, to say the least, to stand up on stage with such high caliber guys. Does it hurt the chances of the lower level guys making it....yes but I would argue that it helps us realize how much work we've got left before we even think about going to a national event.

[Ken Skip Hill]

I see that point BUT the guys who beat you already proved themselves as National level guys. You shouldn't have had to compete against them until you are at the national level in my opinion. The winner of a national qualifier should give anyone a damned good impression of what should be expected at the national level, no?

Skip

[SuperSport]

Good point Skip....5 years would be a better situation for everyone involved.


What is the "pro" status? Is there a time limit with that also -or is it a situation where "once a pro always a pro?"

[Subliminal]

Originally posted by Skip
I see that point BUT the guys who beat you already proved themselves as National level guys. You shouldn't have had to compete against them until you are at the national level in my opinion. The winner of a national qualifier should give anyone a damned good impression of what should be expected at the national level, no?

Skip

I could see where it could discourage a novice!

[dpsquat]

Re: Question for National Qualfication...

Originally posted by Skip
For all of the competitors out there (and if you don't compete you can still chime in), I have a question for you:

If you qualify for national level competition right now, you have 2 years from the date of qualification to compete nationally and then you lose the qualification and have to requalify.

dp
You are correct its 2 years but it ends in Dec of the second year
ie july 04 qualify through dec. 2006

Personally, I don't like the current 2 year deal. First, I would wonder if you should ever have to requalify. I mean, the current state of bodybuilding at the National level is going down as far as contestants at these shows (evidenced by the Jr. USA this year). It MAY increase contestant numbers.

dp
Yes you need to stay qualified, just like a army sniper! The current state is always changing (Jr usa is ALWAYS low in contestants look at the past 5-7) Now go to The Jr Nationals or USA or the Nationals and it business as usual

More importantly, I don't think it is fair to competitors who have NOT qualified and are competing to do so when a national level competitor comes back to compete in his or her state show only because they have to requalify. I have seen this time and time again where guys will not get their qualification because they were beaten by someone who only competed for the requalification. It doesn't seem terribly fair.

dp
well it does seem like there are "Trophy Hunters" out there but it does keep the caliber of contestants up a notch. and they dont get complacent

I wonder, either you qualify and you are qualified forever or at least longer than 2 years - maybe 5 years? 2 years just isn't all that long and if you can't compete in that time frame for some reason, you are screwed and have to go back and requalify.

dp

I think if you place in top 5 at national show you should be qualified for 5 years..I will have to requalify but oh well keeps me sharp





What do you guys think?

Skip

thats what i think

[dpsquat]

or call JM

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sorry i didnt post the article

dp
(king of the dumbasses)

[Kidrok (Hop)]

dp

I think if you place in top 5 at national show you should be qualified for 5 years..I will have to requalify but oh well keeps me sharp

yes that is correct, a top 5 placing in a national show gets you 5 years qualified.

[dpsquat]

Originally posted by KidRok
dp

I think if you place in top 5 at national show you should be qualified for 5 years..I will have to requalify but oh well keeps me sharp

yes that is correct, a top 5 placing in a national show gets you 5 years qualified.

thats what i though BUT you better make sure!! i couldnt find it on the website and i got two calls out to judges on this now

[Trapzilla]

Originally posted by Skip
I see that point BUT the guys who beat you already proved themselves as National level guys. You shouldn't have had to compete against them until you are at the national level in my opinion. The winner of a national qualifier should give anyone a damned good impression of what should be expected at the national level, no?

Skip

I can see your point.... There has got to be some middle ground out there to make it fair to the new guys out there and the established bodybuilders.

[dpsquat]

there is

OPEN/NOVICE --------------- if one is trying to qualify do a show thats not within 4 wks of a national event.

[Trapzilla]

Re: there is

Originally posted by dpsquat
OPEN/NOVICE --------------- if one is trying to qualify do a show thats not within 4 wks of a national event.

Got ya dp.....

[dpsquat]

or

we should just start our own organization

[Ken Skip Hill]

DP said: You are correct its 2 years but it ends in Dec of the second year
ie july 04 qualify through dec. 2006.

Are you sure about this, bro?

Skip

[Kidrok (Hop)]

I thought it was the remainder of the yr you qualified and then 2 yrs from that.