tren the staple of any cycle of mine

[mikeloury21]

what would you guys add to it. i have three options that i am thinking. eq, winny, or test ? not sure how much eq i should take but i was gonna take 50 mg's winny ed, or test @ 500 mg a week. plus the fina at 100mg @ eod
any opinions? pros and cons?
as far as sides i am not proned to any but some aggression lol.

[BiggerStronger]

Definitely test...

[winnie]

Originally posted by BiggerStronger
Definitely test...

Ditto

[SuperSport]

your libido will more than likely suffer if you do not use any test.

[Yanks]

Can't wait for my 1st tren experience. Real soon. Great info.

[mark mcgwire]

Add all of it!

I don't know what you're experience with AAS so, don't take me too serious if you new to the game. Listen to SS about the amount of test to take. Depending on your experience you could take eq anywhere from 300-600 mg per week.

I'm doing 600 mg test and 600 mg eq right now. I'll be adding 100 mg tren eod and then winny at 50 mg eod for the last couple of weeks. I'm gonna keep the eq in my system to offset the dry joints I get from the winny this time.

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[mikeloury21]

damn mark, i am a moddest user, dont consider myself a vet but i have a few cycles under my belt. i do agree with you and do a super cycle, bulk with the tren and test and then cut up toward the end with the eq and winny and tren. if i had the money i would have so much tren and eq in me i would be grazing in fields. lol but i am on a small budget

[mikeloury21]

also as far as brands of juice, what do you guys use? i d like to use some winny-v but i think i may have to go with qv . any brand opinions fellas?

[mikhal]

Hey now, Tren/EQ/Winnie is a personal favorite of mine. i never had ANY type of problems (including Fina dick) and I've done a few different cycles, I'm not the High Priest of AAS but I kinda got some understanding about whats going on, Wiyh that being said I know everyone ALWAYS suggest that Test be included however , I HATE TEST!!!!!!!!!!!!! Because it puts unusable weight on me and I get all the strength I need from the Tren and EQ. Plus I can't stand what I call the Fake Blow up ( Bloats). I've found in my own personal experiences that on a 12 week cycle I can add Masteron at 400mg week6-12 and stop the winnie 50mg ED week 7 take 2 weeks offuse a liver conditioner week 7 -9 and then add Halo at 12.5 or 15 mg ED week 10- 12 and I 've come out look'n Crazy ripped and feel'n great and Strong as HELL. NO BLOATS OR LIMP DICK. So far I've never had any side effects that were noticible to me and I've always got an all clear from my doctor after such a cycle. I only weigh 156 after I really strip down but I ususally only have to drop a few ( 5 or 6 lbs) after a cycle to get back to fight weight but I'm left with QUALITY muscle. Not to mention that everyone ask " are you fighting at light-heavyweight" and thats 3 weight divisons over me , so I look huge but I manage to contain just all muscle on my frame and I'm ususally right around 5.3 to 5.7 BF before fight time so it's working for me, But as I said thats just me. It may be something that you may want to consider.

[mikeloury21]

special brand you fellas look for or whatever is cheaper?

[jaywooly]

ALL OF IT, lol. Well at least the test.

Perhaps you could run a tren, test prop, and winny cycle. My all time fav. hands down.

[Heckman]

Originally posted by jaywooly
ALL OF IT, lol. Well at least the test.

Perhaps you could run a tren, test prop, and winny cycle. My all time fav. hands down.

Now is that ed or eod on the tren and prop?
And at what dosages?

[xcelbeyond]

If you've never used it before, don't go over 75mg EOD (or 37.5mg ED) - no need.

Since winny puportedly competes for the progesterone receptor, I ALWAYS take it with tren. Goes together like bread and butter, salt and pepper, my tongue and a snatch - eeerr; you get the idea.

Since I'm VERY prone to e-related gyno, I don't want any weird probs with progesterone - and haven't stacking the two together.

I don't know what you've been taking for test so I can't suggest an amount. I use 50mg tren, 125mg test base, and 50mg injectible winny ED - but I've done several cycles of tren.

xcel

[Heckman]

Originally posted by xcelbeyond
If you've never used it before, don't go over 75mg EOD (or 37.5mg ED) - no need.

Since winny puportedly competes for the progesterone receptor, I ALWAYS take it with tren. Goes together like bread and butter, salt and pepper, my tongue and a snatch - eeerr; you get the idea.

Since I'm VERY prone to e-related gyno, I don't want any weird probs with progesterone - and haven't stacking the two together.

I don't know what you've been taking for test so I can't suggest an amount. I use 50mg tren, 125mg test base, and 50mg injectible winny ED - but I've done several cycles of tren.

xcel

Never have but I am wanting to learn more about it before I do. Right now I'm at 500mg test e ew and 300 deca ew.

I want to try the tren, prop and winny next time around.

[jaywooly]

Originally posted by Heckman
Now is that ed or eod on the tren and prop?
And at what dosages?

Okay, you've never done tren, but have a enan. and deca cycle under your belt.


Okay, I would suggest.....

~150 mgs test prop EOD weeks 1-12 (thats about 525 mgs EW)
between 75 and 100 mgs tren EOD weeks 1-12
50 mgs of winny ED weeks 7-12

A few things to keep in mind, you'll be injecting more, just about twice as much EW as your current cycle. I've known prop to be a bit more painful than enanthate (for at least the first couple weeks). I suggest a winny oral here. Winny is a painful inject and it would have to be ED.

I didn't meant to hijack the original question but I feel it could be of some use to mike too.