You Guys will be the Death of me

[rugbythug]

After all the talk of Yohimbine and how great it is I picked some up. I have taken Yohimbine HCL before but this is optimum Nutrition 1111. 1111mg with a 2% standeredized alkaloids. So far I tried it on 3 seperate days. Everytime my heart has gotten into irregular Heart beats and bad pains in my chest that come and go. I get blury vision and and bad anxiety. I took 2 pills the first time-like the bottle says. Thought I would die right then. Later like about 2 weeks I took one pill-again felt really shitty. Today I took 1/2 a pill. Cut it in half and dumped out half. Again felt terrible. I think I have very low tolerance for this stuff. Just a warning to everyone-don't jump in feet first. I can take 300mcg of clen with no shakes. But half a pill of yohimbine makes me check for parking in the ER.

[Heckman]

Had a similar experience with that stuff..Used it once and once only..Never again

[Kidrok (Hop)]

not everything works for everybody....unfortunately there's always experimentation needed by the individual to know whats good for them. By all means if it causes those kind of adverse reaction in you stay away from it! We need to keep you around posting!

[SweatMachine]

One time, at band camp... I smoked 6 rocks of crack,I did 4 hits of acid and shot up 25mg of heroine,...I didnt feel very good. I think I might have had some kind of reaction. I think I will just stick to Angel Trumpets for now on.

[homonunculus]

Rugby, sorry to hear that, man.

Consider this (and this is why I say that the only yoh. *bark* that I trust is twinlabs yoh. fuel):

Twinlabs is standardized for 8% yohimbane alkaloids, some of which is yohimbine, the active "ingredient." People who get yoh. HCL don't complain of sides near as ofthen as those taking the herbal forms. (Same for you, it sounds like.) My GUESS is that the herbal causes sides b/c of the other alkaloids.

So, you managed to find something that is standardized at only *2%*, meaning that its probably of lower quantity than the twinlab stuff. (MUch lower, unless twinlabs has done a chemical extraction of some sort.)

ALSO: 2% of 1111mg is like 22mg of yoh. alkaloid. The yohimbine dose that is used in research often is .2mg/kg / day,. which is just about 22mg for a ~230lb BB'er.

So, you've got low quality stuff (or with little care towards processing) with a high dose: trouble time.

I'm just surprised that the bottle says that. Can you imagine a 140lb kid taking that stuff?...

As a side note, I think that yohimbe bark, for this reason, has the potential to be much more dangerous than ephedra (ma huang).

-R

[rugbythug]

I agree about it being more dangerous. The stuff was pretty scary. I have used the Yo HCL from kilo sports and had reasonable success with very little sides. I was just kidding about blaming you guys. I think I am staying clear of all Optimum Nutrition products from now on.

[SweatMachine]

Anyone use any of the suspended YoH from our sponsor or any other online source????

[GetnBigr]

I am using the 1Fast400 brand of Yohimbine HCL. I am only using 2 pills a day right now. I wait an hour before I take my Lipo 6 and L-Carnitine. I haven't felt anything besides body heat; this shiit makes me sweat even when sitting in an air conditioned room.

[homonunculus]

Originally posted by GetnBigr
I am using the 1Fast400 brand of Yohimbine HCL. I am only using 2 pills a day right now. I wait an hour before I take my Lipo 6 and L-Carnitine. I haven't felt anything besides body heat; this shiit makes me sweat even when sitting in an air conditioned room.

That's the action of the yoh. on smooth muscle in the skin (and probably on the sweat gland, directly, too). What causes sweating is pretty complex - both branches of the autonomic nervous system and local reflexive control, too. I get the same thing sometimes...

-Randy

[SuperSport]

Randy....What is your opinion on using Yohimbe extract as a vasodilator?
I have used it before every w/o for about 20 years-no kidding-I have always gotten fantastic pumps off of it.

I use a liquid extract sublingually about 15 min before training.