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    Hi fellow brothers

    Im thinking about purchasing some Crest Nighttime Strips on Ebay (they dont sell that stuff in the stores here in NL). But about 3 years ago I fell hard and a piece off one of my teeth was damaged/removed, now I know it is not a crown but Im not sure what it is exactly what the dentist put on. Now would it be allright to try it out for a couple of days and see what happens? BTW what is your experience with these strips, how well do they work?

    Much appreciation,

    Blade
    Blade

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  • #2
    The white strips work really well. They are much better than most of the other products out on the market IMO. But, I'm not sure about the chipped tooth though... You may want to just call your dentist & ask.
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    • #3
      Blade,

      I'm had a simlilar situation as you. I have a chipped front tooth from when I was a kid. I wanted to have the cap on my tooth replaced because it was getting old and I also wanted to whiten my teeth. My dentist told me that the strips wouldn't whiten my cap, just the other teeth.

      So I used the Crest White Strips (not the Nighttime Strips) for two weeks and they worked very well. After using the strips I had my cap replaced and he was able to match the new cap (now they just call it a filling) to the color of the whitened teeth.

      It couldn't hurt to run your situation by your dentist though.

      Good luck.


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      • #4
        Thanks for your replies. Hmhm very interesting mark!! Im going to consult with my dentist and try to do the same as you did.
        Blade

        "Keep your purpose in mind, simply go to the gym and do your workout, do it well and don't worry
        what other people are doing. Confidence will grow as you achieve."

        "If you believe in yourself, have dedication and pride and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of
        victory is high, but so are the rewards"

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        • #5
          Something else to add here-

          I usually make a paste out of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda to replace regular toothpaste. Reg toothpaste has fluoride in almost all cases, which is a known carcinogen and has never proven to decrease the development of cavities. Actually, the fello that proposed adding fluoride to products to deter tooth decay actually testified in court on 2 occasions 50 years ago that he had NO evidence that this was true.

          The peroxide will whiten your teeth also....

          AND.......

          forget about using scope and listerine as mouthwashes. All they are in reality is a type of liqueur..you will get much better results and save quite a few bucks by using straight H2o2 at 3% (drug store variety) as a mouthwash and it will again whiten one's teeth. Please...do not swallow H2o2.

          I have lots more uses for peroxide....will disclose all in the near future.

          Hydrogen Peroxide....Medical Miracle.
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SuperSport
            Something else to add here-

            I usually make a paste out of hydrogen peroxide and baking soda to replace regular toothpaste. Reg toothpaste has fluoride in almost all cases, which is a known carcinogen and has never proven to decrease the development of cavities. Actually, the fello that proposed adding fluoride to products to deter tooth decay actually testified in court on 2 occasions 50 years ago that he had NO evidence that this was true.

            The peroxide will whiten your teeth also....

            AND.......

            forget about using scope and listerine as mouthwashes. All they are in reality is a type of liqueur..you will get much better results and save quite a few bucks by using straight H2o2 at 3% (drug store variety) as a mouthwash and it will again whiten one's teeth. Please...do not swallow H2o2.

            I have lots more uses for peroxide....will disclose all in the near future.

            Hydrogen Peroxide....Medical Miracle.
            i do the same, i have been rinsing my mouth with hydrogen peroxide for about a year. it really does make a difference...
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            • #7
              SS, thanks for great(!) advice but I have a few questions though is the fluoride really useless?? My nephew is a dentist and when I see him Ill talk about it to him. It would be DAMN stupid if the fluoride is really useless, that would be FUCKED up why the hell are they in my toothpaste and why does the dentist put extra fluroide on us then? Thanks again for your input SuperSport. BTW what if you accidently swallow the H2O2, what would happen? (Just asking in case Ill do something stupid LOL).

              Thanks,
              Blade

              "Keep your purpose in mind, simply go to the gym and do your workout, do it well and don't worry
              what other people are doing. Confidence will grow as you achieve."

              "If you believe in yourself, have dedication and pride and never quit, you'll be a winner. The price of
              victory is high, but so are the rewards"

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              • #8
                A small bit of H2o2 in the stomach will probably not hurt anyone. A small bit is a very small bit. Problem is that we do not really have the proper enzymes to break H2o2 down in the guts and it could cause irritation.

                A small bit would be equivalent to 2 or 3 drops from an eyedropper.

                Like TPC mentioned above, I and many others have used peroxide as a mouthwash for 10 years or more.

                As for the fluoride, yes it is very carcinogenic. I will add a post tonite to the cancer forum that shows just how carcinogenic fluoride really is. It is added to drinking water in many large US cities...and these same cities have a relatively high rate of cancer.

                Your dentist/cousin probably does not even know how toxic fluoride is....when the ADA signs off on something it is regarded as the Holy Grail amongst dentists.

                Few people understand the politics behind such organizations-or the possible legal repercussions.

                How big of a class action lawsuit would be filed against the ADA. toothpaste manufactures, and dentists if it was proved that the ADA in fact knew that fluoride was a potent carcinogen and knowingly gave harmful advice??

                Curiosity kills me....ask your cousin/dentist about mercury amalgam fillings by chance. See if he believes they are non toxic just for the heck of it. Europe banned these fillings many years ago because they are so toxic. Many Multiple Sclerosis patients have completely alleviated MS symptoms in a few weeks just byt removing their mercury amalgams and having plastic composite installed instead. You can bet these fillings play a significant role in development of cancers.
                I believe recently the ADA did ban these amalgam fillings in the US for children-mercury is exceptionally harmful in neurological development in kids.

                Check out this quote by an American dentist in regards to silver murcury amalgam fillings-

                " I don't feel comfortable using a substance designated by the Environmental Protection Agency to be a waste disposal hazard. I can't thow it in the trash, bury it in the ground, or put it in a landfill , but they say it is okay to put it in people's mouths. That doesn't make sense." Dr Richard D. Fischer, D.D.S.

                Doesn't make sense indeed.

                Mercury is more toxic than arsenic. But yet dentists use mercury amalgams all the time. Fortunately I only had 2 cavities when I was a kid and my dentist used the plastic composite. I am the only adult I know of that has never had mercury fillings.

                Again-if the ADA came clean about these amalgam fillings there would be a huge class action lawsuit more than likely-and it would make the tobacco settlements look like childs play.

                The ADA, NCI, NIH, FDA, et al consider their money and prestige more valueable than your health.

                In the next week I will make a sticky in the health forum in regards to the shenanigans of these organizations and RX pharma companies.
                Last edited by SuperSport; 09-02-2004, 05:37 PM.
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                • #9
                  Thanks for all of this great info. I am going to start with this alternative for teeth whuitening tonight !
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                  • #10
                    WOW!! SS - I had no idea flouride was THAT bad. Every time I went to the dentist and they gave me a flouride treatment, they tell me not to swallow....(that's really hard to do just because you know you can't, which makes you feel like you're gonna die if you don't swallow) I just thought it would upset your stomach if you swallowed it.

                    I cringe at the thought of using hydrogen peroxide, just because of the taste. But if it is actually safer than flouride, then I should really consider it. I wonder if the pharmacy could flavor it like they do with their medicines. mmmmmmm bubble gum peroxide sounds much better, don't you think?
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by american idol
                      WOW!! SS - I had no idea flouride was THAT bad. Every time I went to the dentist and they gave me a flouride treatment, they tell me not to swallow....(that's really hard to do just because you know you can't, which makes you feel like you're gonna die if you don't swallow) I just thought it would upset your stomach if you swallowed it.

                      I cringe at the thought of using hydrogen peroxide, just because of the taste. But if it is actually safer than flouride, then I should really consider it. I wonder if the pharmacy could flavor it like they do with their medicines. mmmmmmm bubble gum peroxide sounds much better, don't you think?


                      Please AI, do not cringe at the thought of H2o2. This compound is absolutely a medical miracle. For about 6-7 years now I have visited MD's that use intravenous adminastration of hydrogen peroxide (H202) for colds and flu. It usually knocks out the worst flu in about a day. It will also disslove plaque in blood vessels, and make such vascular tissues more pliable so more blood can flow through them.

                      H2o2 is the cat's ass, especially when wedded with Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation. This wedding is called "photo oxidation", and there is no infectious disease that can withstand its wrath. Even non-infectious states such as cancer, asthma, AIDS are usually rapidly improved if not cured by photo oxidation.

                      Here is the post I made a few months ago in the health forum concerning IV adminasteration of H202-

                      Hydrogen Peroxide-Medical Miracle

                      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                      There is some interesting things going on today in medicine with intravenous hydrogen peroxide therapy (H202).

                      I have had it adminastered many times by several MD's that I routinely visit. The list of conditions H202 will treat is pretty large-including but not limited to:AIDS, arthritis, cancer, candidiasis, chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, lupus, emphysema, multiple sclerosis, varicose viens, athlerosclerosis, colds and flu, vascular headaches, gangrene, strokes, allergies, asthma, lung infections, diabetes, bacterial infections, herpes zoster "shingles", acne and wounds (Farr, C. H. Workbook on Free Radical Chemistry and Hydrogen Peroxide Metabolism Including Protocol for Intravenous Adminastration of Hydrogen Peroxide"-International Bio-oxidative Foundation.

                      What happens is when hydrogen peroxide is introduced into the bloodstream it reacts with 2 enzymes-catalase and cytochrome-c. This reaction gives off water (H2o) and singlet oxygen.

                      Singlet oxygen is what our immune system uses as a first line of defense against invaders. A group of immune cells called granulocytes arm themselves with singlet O and seek out invaders and actually inject the oxygen into the micro organism, thus destroying it.
                      It is well known that viruses, bacteria, fungus, and even cancer cells are immediately oxidized by Oxygen.
                      H202's brightest star may be in the treatment of cancer. Dr. Kurt Donsbach's clinic "Hospital Santa Monica" in Mexico has had such phenomenal results with H2o2 that Donsbach says it is the only substance that is used in every cancer patient at his clinic.

                      Dr. Charles Farr is the one responsible for getting the ball roliing 2 decades ago concerning h202. According to Dr. Farr when a small amount of H202 -about 3 cc's of 3% h202 in a drip bag over 2 hours time-the result is that the blood is so enriched with oxygen it is the equivalent of breathing 414 quarts of pure oxygen. It is speculated the when h202 enters the bloodstream the body "unlocks" it's own oxygen.
                      Some other interesting things that happen is that insulin sensitivity is improved with IV H202 therapy, hardening of the arteries is reversed, vascular plaque is dissolved, brain and nervous tissue damaged by stroke is reversed, and more.

                      Something very interesting is that i read some literature that indicated that rabbitts that had been asphyxiated by strangulation were kept alive for 13 minutes by merely dripping h202 on the heart and vessels .
                      I have used IV H202 on several occasions for treatment of headaches and colds/flu. A vascular headache (migraine, clusters) dissapears in no time and in the case of a cold or flu the symptoms totally resolve in a day or less.
                      H202 IV therapy is totally non toxic. When combined with Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation it is called "photo-oxidation"- and there is no pathogen present today that can withstand the wrath of UV light combined with H202.

                      After reading this post...please do not get any hairbrained idea to self inject h202 into your veins or body. You will certainly burn your veins and besides, the docs get a solvent free form of h202 intended for injection.

                      If you are interested in finding an MD in your area that uses Hydrogen Peroxide Therapy just call the International Bio-Oxidative Medicine Foundation at 405-634-7320.

                      Hydrogen Peroxide......Medical Miracle.



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                      " We know that to err is human, but the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is one hell of a mistake"
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by SuperSport
                        Please AI, do not cringe at the thought of H2o2. This compound is absolutely a medical miracle. For about 6-7 years now I have visited MD's that use intravenous adminastration of hydrogen peroxide (H202) for colds and flu. It usually knocks out the worst flu in about a day. It will also disslove plaque in blood vessels, and make such vascular tissues more pliable so more blood can flow through them.
                        Had I known it's benefits for the flu, I would have looked more into it last week when my hubby was suffering.

                        Originally posted by SuperSport

                        I have had it adminastered many times by several MD's that I routinely visit. The list of conditions H202 will treat is pretty large-including but not limited to:AIDS, arthritis, cancer, candidiasis, chronic fatigue syndrome, depression, lupus, emphysema, multiple sclerosis, varicose viens, athlerosclerosis, colds and flu, vascular headaches, gangrene, strokes, allergies, asthma, lung infections, diabetes, bacterial infections, herpes zoster "shingles", acne and wounds (Farr, C. H. Workbook on Free Radical Chemistry and Hydrogen Peroxide Metabolism Including Protocol for Intravenous Adminastration of Hydrogen Peroxide"-International Bio-oxidative Foundation.
                        Amazing... really, amazing. You've really got me interested in this now. I've never heard of this kind of therapy. I'll admit, I'm a bit shocked at the conditions it can treat. Blown away is more like it. Now I'm curious to know just how beneficial it is for some of those conditions listed above. If you're going to post something more about it's benefits in the health forum, I am very interested in it. I know you mentioned posting the benefits it has for cancer. I am very interested in that and all the other conditions you mentioned. WOW... just WOW. :albert:
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                        • #13
                          I have some really interesting stuff going up in the cancer forum next week. I am going to try to get Dr. Kurt Donsbach on the phone tuesday morning. He owns and operates cancer clinics in Mexico, Poland, and China. In addition to being a world authority on IV H2O2 he is considered one of the leading nutritionalists in all of humanity. If I am not mistaken he was perhaps the first doc to denounce eating trans fats and hydrogenated anything decades ago.

                          I have spoken to his staff before and received literature from his clinics over the years. He is adamant that each cancer patient receives IV H2O2 during their one month stay at his hospitals.

                          They boast an impressive survival rate of terminally ill cancer patients at their clinic. A cancer patient is not "cured" until 5 years have elapsed from their last treatment and there has been no cancer detected a single time. Most of these terminal patients have been through the "slash, burn, and poison" techniques of conventional oncology and after being told by their MD there is nothing left for them they show up at Donsbach's clinics literally on a gurney.
                          For any of these patients to recover is a miracle. I believe Donsbach's group claims around 50% of these patients are alive and well after 5 years from discharge.

                          I will be visiting Donsbach's clinic for at least 2 weeks in Feb 2005 for investigation/research.
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                          • #14
                            So do these well known famous cancer hospitals like MD Anderson in Houston not use this method? WOW.
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                            • #15
                              The things that the medical community pushes as beneficial is just plain scary.

                              They push flouridated water for babies along with formula, pushing new parents to do the "right thing" for their child's growth and development. Iron is also pushed like crazy and when we were having our girls breast feeding was frowned upon as being lesser for our girls because nature doesn't know what its doing nearly as well as formula companies. That's what initially started our revolt from the standard story sold in parenting magazines and led to homeschooling as well. If its a line sold by a government entity that thinks they can eliminate common sense and do better than I can, I'm not buying, thank you very much.
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