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Old 02-16-2009, 03:00 AM   #1
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Cardio ? *Updated 10 weeks out pics....

Any difference in fat burning with the below plans ?

45 Mins AM
45 Mins PM

Or

30 Mins AM
30 Mins Afternoon
30 Mins PM

I hate cardio,so thinking of breaking it into 3 sessions to make it less boring.....

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Old 02-16-2009, 05:54 AM   #2
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Both will take you to the end result, there are more important things to worry about.
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:28 AM   #3
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I think the bottom line is getting it done (and I am assuming you are talking about in one day)...but, why not suck it up w/ 15 mins at the end of both the morn/afternoon sessions? I know cardio can suck, but a portable DVD player can do wonders.

Now, unless you work from home and have the equipment at the house (or work at the gym), thats fitting in alot of sessions per day, which for me, would be much worse than the cardio outlined in plan A (45mins). Also, I would have to go somewhere and I wouldnt have the time to do it 3x per day--(read: I wouldnt make time for 3 cardio sessions per day as that would include commute time to/from the gym, warming up, changing, etc).

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Old 02-16-2009, 09:57 AM   #4
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I know there are more important things to worry about

I own/work in my own Gym.It is a small setup and i work in there alone,so i have to do my cardio before i open up in the AM and when i close in the PM.By the time i finish work in the evening,it doesnt give me much time to spend with my Fiancee,so the earlier i get out of the Gym the better.I could fit in the 30 min afternoon session when the Gym is quiet.......

I myself didnt think it would make much difference.90 mins in 90 mins.Just wanted some opinions...
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:58 AM   #5
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Why so much? Why not 30-45 mins on empty stomach or right after workout?
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Old 02-16-2009, 11:51 AM   #6
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Why so much ? Because im in contest prep,and i have fat to lose.Also,im diabetic,and cant lower my carbs as much as i would like to,so i add more cardio.....

Think im gonna just suck it up and do 2 x 45.The AM session doesnt bother me so much.Its just the PM session after i have locked Gym up for the day.After being in there for a 12 hour day,i really like to be out of the place asap !
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Old 02-16-2009, 02:02 PM   #7
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Why so much ? Because im in contest prep,and i have fat to lose.Also,im diabetic,and cant lower my carbs as much as i would like to,so i add more cardio.....

Think im gonna just suck it up and do 2 x 45.The AM session doesnt bother me so much.Its just the PM session after i have locked Gym up for the day.After being in there for a 12 hour day,i really like to be out of the place asap !
I must have missed you being in "prep mode" somewhere?
I would like to see some pics of where you are now. I think cardio is important in prep, but I feel a lot of people overdo it and end up being very flat.
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Old 02-16-2009, 04:56 PM   #8
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I plan on taking some pics at 10 weeks out ( Next week ) will post them up.....
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Old 02-16-2009, 05:34 PM   #9
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The only advantage I can see to the 30mins x 3sessions way is that your metabolism will be elevated for an extra period of time. Otherwise I would think 45mins x 2sessions would win.
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:25 PM   #10
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If you can fit in 30mins in the afternoon when it is quiet, do you think you could fit in an extra 15mins at that time (for 45mins) instead of waiting until closing time? If so, when its time to lock up, you do so and go home to spend time with the future wife...

Or would the extra 15mins in the afternoon be pushing it too far (not sure how long it stays quiet there)? Just throwing it out there...

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Old 02-17-2009, 02:22 AM   #11
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Also,im diabetic,and cant lower my carbs as much as i would like to,so i add more cardio.....
How low do carbs have to be in order for you to go hypo? And at what HR does this typically occur?

Just curious because I was going hypo every cardio session for a while until I added more carbs back into my diet.
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:49 AM   #12
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Its not so much DURING cardio that the Hypos are a concern.My BG usually goes up when i do cardio due to adrenaline release ect.My problem is i need to take Insulin with each meal as just as carbs need insulin to be absorbed,so does protein.If i was to take insulin with my meal,without any carbs,i would go hypo,as there would be no Glucose to keep my BG at a stable level while the insulin does its job ( Absorb the protein/nutrients ) So for me,small amounts of Carbs ( 30g or so per meal ) and small regular doses of Insulin throughout the day is the way to go....
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Old 02-17-2009, 11:52 AM   #13
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I would love to do a Keto type diet,but right now this isnt an option.I would have to experiment with changing my insulin to a slower acting one,so it peaks when the protein hits the bloodstream.It would take many weeks to get it right.Time is what i dont have right now.I will try it in the future though......
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From strictly a metabolic perspective, 3 sessions at 30 minutes is optimal given the options you listed. Every time you do cardio you jumpstart your metabolism and remember that you burn calories from the cardio session after you stop doing the session. It is much like doing postworkout cardio vs. cardio by itself. Doing in postworkout is simply an extension of burning calories from your workout. Doing it by itself, though, starts the calorie burning from a dead stop instead of just extending the calorie burning phase.

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From strictly a metabolic perspective, 3 sessions at 30 minutes is optimal given the options you listed. Every time you do cardio you jumpstart your metabolism and remember that you burn calories from the cardio session after you stop doing the session. It is much like doing postworkout cardio vs. cardio by itself. Doing in postworkout is simply an extension of burning calories from your workout. Doing it by itself, though, starts the calorie burning from a dead stop instead of just extending the calorie burning phase.

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Old 02-18-2009, 03:10 AM   #16
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Thanks for thr input Skip ! I might change to 3 x 30 mins from next week and see how it goes.....

Will be sending you a PM over the weekend...
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I look forward to hearing from you. I think you are crazy for doing 3 sessions a day, though. lol

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Any difference in fat burning with the below plans ?

45 Mins AM
45 Mins PM

Or

30 Mins AM
30 Mins Afternoon
30 Mins PM

I hate cardio,so thinking of breaking it into 3 sessions to make it less boring.....
both options are fine BUT i would definitely make sure that the pm sessions are not too close to bedtime because this will effect your ''afterburn''

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Old 02-18-2009, 08:31 AM   #19
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8.30 am
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30 mins seems to go over so much quicker than 45 mins to me for some strange reason.Doing 45 am and 30 pm right now.Will switch to the 30 x 3 next week..........
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both options are fine BUT i would definitely make sure that the pm sessions are not too close to bedtime because this will effect your ''afterburn''

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do you have any literature on this?
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do you have any literature on this?
what for? when you go to sleep your metabolism tends to slow down thus impacting the after burn . if you do your cardio too close to bedtime .........

does your Musclemag issue tell you something different?


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Old 02-23-2009, 07:36 AM   #22
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Looking great for 10 weeks out bro! You will be shredded come contest time....Still doing cardio 3 times a day?
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Old 02-23-2009, 04:18 PM   #24
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Thanks man.You think im on track for 10 weeks out ?

Just started the 3 x 30 mins today.I like it better than 2 x 45 min ! My new Archos Media Player is helping
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Thanks man.You think im on track for 10 weeks out ?

Just started the 3 x 30 mins today.I like it better than 2 x 45 min ! My new Archos Media Player is helping
I'm no expert but I'd say you look right on track or maybe a little ahead to me bro. Good luck with those cardio sessions LOL

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