Im kind of stuck here with all this

[Doggcrapp]

There is alot I could write about for advanced trainers and every time I start, I stop. And the reason is, the basic way Ive set everything up here is to bring people to the "advanced level" as quickly as possible. I know if I start talking about what I do with advanced guys, alot of ego's will start churning and people will start thinking "well im advanced too!"
I see guys in here weighing 170lbs asking why their chest and arms wont grow. Heres the most likely reason. YOUR 170LBS at 6 foot tall!!!! Your not supposed to have 20 inch arms and huge pecs at 170lbs. Do you think your idol Arnold at 235-240lbs onstage with huge guns and pecs would of had huge guns and pecs at 170lbs? No that means 65-70lbs less muscle mass on him and he would of looked like......well....like YOU!
Im pretty good with basic human nature. And if I say "here do this, this will bring you from 150 to 225 the quickest way I know possible" to a beginner to intermediate bodybuilder, and then say "ok lets do this, with a highly advanced bodybuilder"....what path do you think that beginner to intermediate bodybuilder is going to take? He is going to follow the advanced guys routine because thats what he wants to be like.
Alot of the guys I train in this forum who are highly advanced that I put on that 3 way split (4 day a week) program....with unique adjustments I do for that specific individual, end up saying the same thing to me in emails. "Dante I see why you dont tell those guys in the dogg pound about this stuff, it would just get screwed up beyond belief"
Look at the guys who come in this forum lately and pretty much do their own thing even though Ive laid it out to them how you go about all this. All I hear of late is "hybrid, tweaking, adding" etc. And thats with the basic way of doing things. Now what do you think is going to happen if I tell you what I have the Pro's and nationals/usa guys I train do?

"Newbiebodybuilder Chippy Walker": "oh hey Dante Ill add that to my regimen too even though im only 182lbs and been lifting for 2.5 years!"

Maybe I have a different way of looking at things than alot of the guys reading my stuff. Ive always looked at things as a long term plan, and Ive noticed even with the guys I train that alot of them look at things from a "this past 2 weeks, this week, or even "TODAYS WORKOUT" plan. If you gain 20-25lbs of muscle mass this year, thats amazing and you should hang your head high with pride. But that didnt happen in one workout--that takes a year! Thats 150 to 200 workouts strung together with progressive training and progressive eating and cardio to tie up lose ends, not "TODAYS WORKOUT"

My basic plan is

a)take you from the run of the mill lifter you are today and turn you into an advanced bodybuilder the absolutely quickest way possible

b)that doesnt happen in 5 weeks. Thats a 2 to 3 year plan usually and if you think you can turn yourself into a 3.5 LBS per inch of height lean bodybuilder in the next couple months, your sadly misinformed and no wonder alot of you guys are jumping back and forth from routine to routine and are so clusterfucked in the head you dont know what the hell your doing.

c)Once i get you up to that advanced muscle mass size....and thats all Im asking for, 2-3 years of your time, that aint much when you consider all the people around you in the gym who have been slaving away at it for 10-15 years.... and most of them you would of never thought touched a weight in their life walking down the street. Is that going to be you? Are you the guy who 10 years from now is in the gym and nobody knows in everyday life that you even lift unless you make it a point to tell them you do? (embarrasing)

d)So you can fast track this and get there quickly (where were you as a bodybuilder 2-3 years ago, thats not so long ago now is it?) or you can longtrack this and take the next 8-10 years of lifting and try to become something special by worrying about the little things (slightly weaker bodyparts) on the way up to becoming a big thing (advanced bodybuilder).

e)Again once I get you there, where you have a great deal of muscle mass accumalated and yes you might have some weaker bodyparts than others but you are definitely carrying alot more muscle mass than the next guy....we get down and brutal and start grinding out some unique ideas to get those weaker bodyparts caught up with everything else.

Alot of you guys try to ride off on the horse before it starts even pulling the cart. YOU WANT IT NOW! Well in that confused overanalyzing hyperactive quest to "get it NOW" you might be setting yourself back as far as how advanced you could become as a bodybuilder timewise. I personally hate accomplishing something in 5 years when I knew I could of done it in 2.5 There are alot of things I did when I started out that I wish to god I could get that time back.....because I honestly waisted YEARS not months, YEARS of productive building time by trying to disect this stuff with an electron microscope when a sledgehammer would of done the trick.

There are alot of local bodybuilders who I trained before I started training people online who I see now and then at the gym or around the San Diego area, and they actually listened to me when they were beginning or intermediate bodybuilders...they did exactly what I told them to do because I guess in person Im a little more convincing than words on a webpage online. And now they are advanced bodybuilders and I still hear some of them say "thanks for helping me Dante" or "thanks for getting my head on straight with this stuff"

I take pride knowing that I helped them "not waste valuable time", years if you will. I also saw how the visual side of this sport is all encompassing to people. Some of these guy's freinds scoffed at the training they were doing, you know the same old "not enough sets, you need to do cable crossovers for the inner pec bro, what about burnout sets?) bullshit. When these same guys started flying by their compadres and co-workers guess who were the first people spreading rumors of "juicing" or came running asking them questions "tell me what your doing bro, your getting swole!"

As you can tell of late ive been getting very frustrated with all this crap, because I keep wanting to shake some sense into alot of the people that come into this forum and say to them "I am trying to help you here, and your fighting against me"...so my attitude has changed somewhat to "well Ive done all I can do, if all the pictures, posts, and examples Ive left over the last 6 years proving this out to you, doesnt mean anything, then screw it....do your own thing then"
One of you emailed me and asked why I wasnt correcting people in the pound anymore on various threads. Why? Because I really dont feel I have to anymore...it is what it is. I dont need to and dont want to try to convince people anymore. Do what you want to do training wise. With my methods, either do it and do it right or do something else.
So you guys see my dilemna here, I put alot of stuff out in the open the last 6 years and you see the arguments and how completely screwed up it gets, with people doing hybrids and adding, whatever. If i talk about new stuff Im doing, my headache gets 10x of what it is right now.