HypoPit's DC Log

HypoPit · 07-13-2005, 07:18 PM

My goals are to get through my current bodybuilding plateaus and get into the best shape possible for a 37 year old guy who was in decent shape 4 years ago but has had to deal with a "fricken" brain tumor (10X10 mm prolactinoma) for the last couple of years. I was in pretty good shape before the tumor; i.e., 6’1”, 225 lbs, 15% body fat. However, when I got the tumor, I got up to 300 lbs and 48% body fat!

My tumor really set me back - my body was totally whacked and I lost all gains. Very humiliating time of my life because it took the doctors over 2 years to figure what was going on. I was initially misdiagnosed and the docs told me to “exercise and watch what I ate”. As if I didn’t do that already. Over the last 2 years, I’ve gone from 300 lbs, 48% body fat & 48 inch waist to 225 lbs, 25% body fat and 38 inch waist!

I’ve been trying what little I know of DC Training for 2 weeks and have already seen some gains in strength and size. Getting into shape and maximizing my gains is more than just getting big for me. It’s about maintaining my health and not ever being the way I was before with my tumor. I’ve tried so hard during the past 2 years to get into shape; and I have to a point, but I’ve reached a plateau and want to overcome this.

I will start DC Training in August and the following workouts are a transition/prep period for that. My knowledge of DC training is still very basic, so any suggestions would be appreciated!

HypoPit · 07-13-2005, 07:21 PM

Here are my current stats & measurements in inches:

Height: 6’1”
Weight: 245#
BF%: 30%
Age: 37
Shoulders: 52
Chest: 45
Waist: 42.5
Hips: 45
Thigh: 27.5
Calf: 16.5
Arm: 15.75
Forearm: 12.25
Neck: 17.5

Note: My lowest weight since my tumor was 225 lbs and BF of 25% but is currently at 245# and 30% BF.

Weak points: upper body is smaller than lower body; need more mass and definition for back, chest, arms and shoulders.

Strong points: good size for lower body including calves but need more definition.

HypoPit · 07-13-2005, 07:23 PM

I'm under my physician’s care for Hypo-Pituitarism (hence, my screen name of HypoPit) due to the pituitary tumor. Since I am hypo-pituitary, my insurance covers my Testosterone, GH, HCG, Arimidex and Armour Thyroid (T3 & T4)

Here are my doses:

Testosterone Cypionate: 500 mg / week
Human Growth Hormone (Humatrope): 1mg or 5IU’s / day
HCG: 5,000 Units every other day
Arimidex: 1 mg (as needed)
Armour Thyroid (T3 & T4): 1 grain/day

Crimson Ghost · 07-13-2005, 07:55 PM

Nice to have you here!

First I'm glad they got the tumor and you're doing well!

You'll be back in your old shape in no time! You are on all the good stuff

I'm kind of in the same position, but mine wasn't as drastic/ dangerous as yours. I got the flu really bad and was super sick for 3 months and was sick for almost a year total. I got way out of shape and am fighting back. I waited 3-4 years before I took action though!

Keep up the good work!!!

HypoPit · 07-13-2005, 08:07 PM

Thanks Crimson - I've been reading your journal too and you've been through hell too. Thanks for the encouragement. Look forward to growing together!

HypoPit · 07-13-2005, 08:27 PM

HypoPit’s DC Pre-Blast

I’m starting off with this rotation that I’ve copied from other people’s journals; especially JNo20 & Backslider – two very strong dudes!

Chest:
Incline Smith Press
Flat Hammer Press
Incline Hammer Press

Triceps:
Dips
Lying French Press
High-Cable Kickback

Biceps:
Seated Alt. DB Curls
EZ Preacher Curls
Hammer Machine Curls

Shoulders:
Front Smith Press
Hammer Shoulder Press
Behind-the-neck BB Press

Back T:
Floor Deadlifts
T-Bar Rows
BB Rows

Back W:
Reverse Close-grip Pulldowns
Regular Wide-grip Chins
Front Pulldowns

Quads:
Leg Press
Squats
Hack Squat

Hamstrings:
Seated Leg Curls
SLDL
Sumo Ham Leg Press

Calves:
Standing Calf Raises
Leg Press Calf Raises
Seated Calf Raises

Forearms:
Behind-the-back BB Wrist Rolls
DB Hammer Curls
Reverse-grip One-arm Cable Curls

Abdominals (JUST Rectus Abdominis)
Cable Crunches
Machine Crunches
Cable Reverse Crunches

Cardio: 5+ times / week X 30 minutes
Treadmill
Elliptical
Stairmaster

Crimson Ghost · 07-13-2005, 08:29 PM

Looks like a great selection of exercises.

Let's say "Here's to GROWING bigger in all the right places and getting LEANER at the same time!"

Hey, not to get off topic but was just wondering:

How did they remove your tumor? Were they able to shrink it via radiation/ chemo or did they remove it?

My mom's cousin just had a pituitary tumor removed (hyper-pit) and they went in through the roof of her mouth!

Just wondering....

HypoPit · 07-13-2005, 09:18 PM

Crimson, my pituitary tumor was TOO large to be removed surgically. My prolactin level was over 1300! Normal for males is 0 - 20!!! Fortunately, there's a medicine called Dostinex that I take 2X week and it has shrunk it down to normal size. My prolactin levels are now ~ 7-10. Amazing isn't it!

JNo20 · 07-14-2005, 12:08 AM

Hey there HypoPit, glad to have you here!

You've got a very inspiring story, especially with the drive you have now to improve to a new all-time best.

I agree with Crimson about the exercise selection, looks solid, and on a side note, thank you for the compliment about me being a stong dude! I absolutely love hearing that because that wasn't always the case, believe me, lol.

I noticed you've already checked it out, but I'll go ahead and say it anyway, keep an eye on Crimson's journal. Especially when it comes to diet and supps. He does a great job of documenting every detail and since the two of you have similar goals, the two of you will probably help each other out quite a bit.

Welcome to IM!

HypoPit · 07-14-2005, 12:28 AM

JNo20,

Thanks for welcoming me to IM. It's people like you and others that help keep my goals in mind; especially when trying to eat 500 gms of protein / day and cardio 5+ X's / week.

I look forward to reading of your continued progress and I will keep a close eye on Crimson.

Thanks bro!

Crimson Ghost · 07-14-2005, 02:08 PM

Dang! That would freak me out man! Glad you're ok...

HypoPit · 07-15-2005, 11:34 AM

4AM
Friday, July 14th
DC Blast 1 – Day 1

Incline Smith Press
Last Time: n/a
This Time: 15 X 115
***Really working on form by pushing shoulders back. I tend to use delts when working chest***

Smith Front Press
Last Time: n/a
This Time: 15 x 115

Dips
Last Time: n/a
This Time: 15 X 124
***Used Machine-assist; current weight 247 – can't wait for the day when I can use my own weight for dips & pull-ups!***

Reverse Close-grip Pulldowns
Last Time: n/a
This Time: 15 X 140

Floor Deadlifts
Last Time: n/a
This Time: 8 X 115, 8 X 135

***My first real DC-type workout; definitely the hardest and most INTENSE workout I’ve done. Did 60 sec stretch for triceps & shoulders. Looking forward to progressing in weight/reps***

Cardio -- Stairmaster X 30 minutes

Crimson Ghost · 07-15-2005, 12:42 PM

Good workout Hypo!

I cannot do my bodyweight with pull ups but I can go all day with my bodyweight on dips. Kind of odd but you'll get there!

Awesome start!

backslider · 07-16-2005, 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HypoPit

I'm under my physician’s care for Hypo-Pituitarism (hence, my screen name of HypoPit) due to the pituitary tumor.

now I get it. (the name)
take's alot to battle against that type of adversity. and it sounds like you've got the right approach. good luck.
k

jimpaul · 07-16-2005, 09:00 AM

Very inspiring.

I'll try to check in time to time as I'm super busy lately.

good luck
jim

HypoPit · 07-18-2005, 12:01 PM

backslider: thanks for checking out my journal. I've been following yours too. BTW: I love that new avatar! Who is it?

jimpaul: I look forward to any suggestions you may have. Thanks for checking in!

HypoPit · 07-18-2005, 12:39 PM

Monday, July 18th
DC Blast 1 – Day 2 – 5AM

(RP= Rest Paused LT=Last Time TT=This Time)

First time doing squats in a LONG time. Love them more than I hate them!

Seated Alt. DB Curls
LT: n/a
TT: 45lbs X 20 RP
*Not too sure about bicep/forearm stretch. What’s the best way to do them?

Behind-the-back Barbell Wrist Rolls
LT: n/a
TT: 95lbs X 25 RP

Leg Press Calf Raises
LT: n/a
TT: 180lbs X 15 straight

Seated Leg Curls
LT: n/a
TT: 130lbs X 30 straight

Leg Press
LT: n/a
TT: 225lbs X 8 straight; 135lbs X 14 straight
*Stretched hams & quads

Abs:
LT: n/a
TT: 125lbs X 15 (6 sec negative)

Overall, very good workout. I gave up on the idea of doing cardio after doing squats…no way. I could barely walk to my car. You should see me at home going up stairs…I have a 3-story condo. Ouch!

HypoPit · 07-18-2005, 01:49 PM

*Not too sure about bicep/forearm stretch. What’s the best way to do them?
[/I][/QUOTE]

Just answered my own question -- here's a great thread by Dante and IH on Extreme Stretches

http://intensemuscle.com/showthread....7&page=1&pp=25

Crimson Ghost · 07-18-2005, 02:33 PM

Great job Hypo!

Yeah, ain't NO WAY you're going to get cardio done after legs.

I usually like to try and get in light cardio the day after legs just to work some blood into the legs, I usually don't get as sore by the second day.

JNo20 · 07-18-2005, 07:04 PM

Low intensity cardio is an awesome way to help the legs recover, I highly recommend it.

Great workout, good job!

backslider · 07-19-2005, 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HypoPit

backslider: thanks for checking out my journal. I've been following yours too. BTW: I love that new avatar! Who is it?

hey man that's Bernard Hopkins former undisputed middleweight champ, he just lost his belt the Saturday night at the age of 40.. the guy is timeless.

Ash · 07-19-2005, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HypoPit

***My first real DC-type workout; definitely the hardest and most INTENSE workout I’ve done. Did 60 sec stretch for triceps & shoulders. Looking forward to progressing in weight/reps***

It is pretty damn nasty isn't it? Feels so good though.

Sounds like you've been through a lot - with your kind of drive, you should do well on this routine. Best of luck man!

Ash

HypoPit · 07-20-2005, 12:44 PM

Monday, July 18th

Meals:

1 cup brown rice
4 oz Broiled Salmon

1 med peach
Pure Protein Whey Drink w/ water (75 gms protein)

8 oz turkey breast

12 oz chicken breast
½ cup brown rice

Pure Protein Whey Drink w/ water (50 gms protein)

2292 Calories
Protein = 369 g / 67%
Carbs = 96 g / 17%
Fat 39 g / 16%

Carb Cut-off: 5:30 PM

HypoPit · 07-20-2005, 12:48 PM

Wednesday, July 20th
DC Blast 1 – Day 3 – 5AM

(RP= Rest Paused, LT=Last Time, TT=This Time, SS=Straight Set)

Hammer Flat Press
LT: n/a
TT: 180lbs X 25 RP
*Chest Stretch – 50lbs X 60 sec: the chest pain was so intense; my quads weren’t sore after doing this!

Hammer Shoulder Press
LT: n/a
TT: 180lbs X 15 RP
*Shoulder Stretch X 60 secs

Lying French Press
LT: n/a
TT: 75lbs X 24 RP
*Triceps Stretch – 30lbs X 60 secs

Wide-grip Chins to the Front
LT: n/a
TT: (Assisted) 125lbs X 17 RP

T-Bar Rows
LT: n/a
TT: 135lbs X 10 SS
*Back Stretch: 15 secs max!

Cardio: 20 minutes on treadmill

*Pretty good workout, didn’t’ seem as intense as my first two days. Trying to keep strict form. Disappointed about back stretch; I even used straps but 250lbs is a lot and my back needs a lot of work!

JNo20 · 07-20-2005, 02:13 PM

Good job Hypo. You're crazy for working out at 5 am, lol, but crazy people are all-to-often massive muscular freaks, so you're in good company!

07-13-2005, 07:18 PM	#1
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	HypoPit's DC Log My goals are to get through my current bodybuilding plateaus and get into the best shape possible for a 37 year old guy who was in decent shape 4 years ago but has had to deal with a "fricken" brain tumor (10X10 mm prolactinoma) for the last couple of years. I was in pretty good shape before the tumor; i.e., 6’1”, 225 lbs, 15% body fat. However, when I got the tumor, I got up to 300 lbs and 48% body fat! My tumor really set me back - my body was totally whacked and I lost all gains. Very humiliating time of my life because it took the doctors over 2 years to figure what was going on. I was initially misdiagnosed and the docs told me to “exercise and watch what I ate”. As if I didn’t do that already. Over the last 2 years, I’ve gone from 300 lbs, 48% body fat & 48 inch waist to 225 lbs, 25% body fat and 38 inch waist! I’ve been trying what little I know of DC Training for 2 weeks and have already seen some gains in strength and size. Getting into shape and maximizing my gains is more than just getting big for me. It’s about maintaining my health and not ever being the way I was before with my tumor. I’ve tried so hard during the past 2 years to get into shape; and I have to a point, but I’ve reached a plateau and want to overcome this. I will start DC Training in August and the following workouts are a transition/prep period for that. My knowledge of DC training is still very basic, so any suggestions would be appreciated!

07-16-2005, 09:00 AM	#15
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07-18-2005, 12:01 PM	#16
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	backslider: thanks for checking out my journal. I've been following yours too. BTW: I love that new avatar! Who is it? jimpaul: I look forward to any suggestions you may have. Thanks for checking in! Last edited by HypoPit; 07-18-2005 at 12:41 PM.

07-20-2005, 12:44 PM	#23
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Monday, July 18th Meals: 1 cup brown rice 4 oz Broiled Salmon 1 med peach Pure Protein Whey Drink w/ water (75 gms protein) 8 oz turkey breast 12 oz chicken breast ½ cup brown rice Pure Protein Whey Drink w/ water (50 gms protein) 2292 Calories Protein = 369 g / 67% Carbs = 96 g / 17% Fat 39 g / 16% Carb Cut-off: 5:30 PM Last edited by HypoPit; 07-20-2005 at 01:15 PM.

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07-13-2005, 07:21 PM	#2
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Here are my current stats & measurements in inches: Height: 6’1” Weight: 245# BF%: 30% Age: 37 Shoulders: 52 Chest: 45 Waist: 42.5 Hips: 45 Thigh: 27.5 Calf: 16.5 Arm: 15.75 Forearm: 12.25 Neck: 17.5 Note: My lowest weight since my tumor was 225 lbs and BF of 25% but is currently at 245# and 30% BF. Weak points: upper body is smaller than lower body; need more mass and definition for back, chest, arms and shoulders. Strong points: good size for lower body including calves but need more definition.

07-13-2005, 07:23 PM	#3
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	I'm under my physician’s care for Hypo-Pituitarism (hence, my screen name of HypoPit) due to the pituitary tumor. Since I am hypo-pituitary, my insurance covers my Testosterone, GH, HCG, Arimidex and Armour Thyroid (T3 & T4) Here are my doses: Testosterone Cypionate: 500 mg / week Human Growth Hormone (Humatrope): 1mg or 5IU’s / day HCG: 5,000 Units every other day Arimidex: 1 mg (as needed) Armour Thyroid (T3 & T4): 1 grain/day

07-13-2005, 07:55 PM	#4
Crimson Ghost Heavyweight Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,433	Nice to have you here! First I'm glad they got the tumor and you're doing well! You'll be back in your old shape in no time! You are on all the good stuff I'm kind of in the same position, but mine wasn't as drastic/ dangerous as yours. I got the flu really bad and was super sick for 3 months and was sick for almost a year total. I got way out of shape and am fighting back. I waited 3-4 years before I took action though! Keep up the good work!!!

07-13-2005, 08:07 PM	#5
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Thanks Crimson - I've been reading your journal too and you've been through hell too. Thanks for the encouragement. Look forward to growing together!

07-13-2005, 08:27 PM	#6
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	HypoPit’s DC Pre-Blast I’m starting off with this rotation that I’ve copied from other people’s journals; especially JNo20 & Backslider – two very strong dudes! Chest: Incline Smith Press Flat Hammer Press Incline Hammer Press Triceps: Dips Lying French Press High-Cable Kickback Biceps: Seated Alt. DB Curls EZ Preacher Curls Hammer Machine Curls Shoulders: Front Smith Press Hammer Shoulder Press Behind-the-neck BB Press Back T: Floor Deadlifts T-Bar Rows BB Rows Back W: Reverse Close-grip Pulldowns Regular Wide-grip Chins Front Pulldowns Quads: Leg Press Squats Hack Squat Hamstrings: Seated Leg Curls SLDL Sumo Ham Leg Press Calves: Standing Calf Raises Leg Press Calf Raises Seated Calf Raises Forearms: Behind-the-back BB Wrist Rolls DB Hammer Curls Reverse-grip One-arm Cable Curls Abdominals (JUST Rectus Abdominis) Cable Crunches Machine Crunches Cable Reverse Crunches Cardio: 5+ times / week X 30 minutes Treadmill Elliptical Stairmaster

07-13-2005, 08:29 PM	#7
Crimson Ghost Heavyweight Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,433	Looks like a great selection of exercises. Let's say "Here's to GROWING bigger in all the right places and getting LEANER at the same time!" Hey, not to get off topic but was just wondering: How did they remove your tumor? Were they able to shrink it via radiation/ chemo or did they remove it? My mom's cousin just had a pituitary tumor removed (hyper-pit) and they went in through the roof of her mouth! Just wondering....

07-13-2005, 09:18 PM	#8
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Crimson, my pituitary tumor was TOO large to be removed surgically. My prolactin level was over 1300! Normal for males is 0 - 20!!! Fortunately, there's a medicine called Dostinex that I take 2X week and it has shrunk it down to normal size. My prolactin levels are now ~ 7-10. Amazing isn't it!

07-14-2005, 12:08 AM	#9
JNo20 Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,095	Hey there HypoPit, glad to have you here! You've got a very inspiring story, especially with the drive you have now to improve to a new all-time best. I agree with Crimson about the exercise selection, looks solid, and on a side note, thank you for the compliment about me being a stong dude! I absolutely love hearing that because that wasn't always the case, believe me, lol. I noticed you've already checked it out, but I'll go ahead and say it anyway, keep an eye on Crimson's journal. Especially when it comes to diet and supps. He does a great job of documenting every detail and since the two of you have similar goals, the two of you will probably help each other out quite a bit. Welcome to IM!

07-14-2005, 12:28 AM	#10
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	JNo20, Thanks for welcoming me to IM. It's people like you and others that help keep my goals in mind; especially when trying to eat 500 gms of protein / day and cardio 5+ X's / week. I look forward to reading of your continued progress and I will keep a close eye on Crimson. Thanks bro!

07-14-2005, 02:08 PM	#11
Crimson Ghost Heavyweight Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,433	Dang! That would freak me out man! Glad you're ok...

07-15-2005, 11:34 AM	#12
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	4AM Friday, July 14th DC Blast 1 – Day 1 Incline Smith Press Last Time: n/a This Time: 15 X 115 *Really working on form by pushing shoulders back. I tend to use delts when working chest* Smith Front Press Last Time: n/a This Time: 15 x 115 Dips Last Time: n/a This Time: 15 X 124 *Used Machine-assist; current weight 247 – can't wait for the day when I can use my own weight for dips & pull-ups!* Reverse Close-grip Pulldowns Last Time: n/a This Time: 15 X 140 Floor Deadlifts Last Time: n/a This Time: 8 X 115, 8 X 135 *My first real DC-type workout; definitely the hardest and most INTENSE workout I’ve done. Did 60 sec stretch for triceps & shoulders. Looking forward to progressing in weight/reps* Cardio -- Stairmaster X 30 minutes

07-15-2005, 12:42 PM	#13
Crimson Ghost Heavyweight Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,433	Good workout Hypo! I cannot do my bodyweight with pull ups but I can go all day with my bodyweight on dips. Kind of odd but you'll get there! Awesome start!

07-18-2005, 12:39 PM	#17
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Monday, July 18th DC Blast 1 – Day 2 – 5AM (RP= Rest Paused LT=Last Time TT=This Time) First time doing squats in a LONG time. Love them more than I hate them! Seated Alt. DB Curls LT: n/a TT: 45lbs X 20 RP Not too sure about bicep/forearm stretch. What’s the best way to do them? Behind-the-back Barbell Wrist Rolls LT: n/a TT: 95lbs X 25 RP Leg Press Calf Raises LT: n/a TT: 180lbs X 15 straight Seated Leg Curls LT: n/a TT: 130lbs X 30 straight Leg Press LT: n/a TT: 225lbs X 8 straight; 135lbs X 14 straight Stretched hams & quads Abs: LT: n/a TT: 125lbs X 15 (6 sec negative) Overall, very good workout. I gave up on the idea of doing cardio after doing squats…no way. I could barely walk to my car. You should see me at home going up stairs…I have a 3-story condo. Ouch!

07-18-2005, 01:49 PM	#18
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	*Not too sure about bicep/forearm stretch. What’s the best way to do them? [/I][/QUOTE] Just answered my own question -- here's a great thread by Dante and IH on Extreme Stretches http://intensemuscle.com/showthread....7&page=1&pp=25

07-18-2005, 02:33 PM	#19
Crimson Ghost Heavyweight Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Colorado Posts: 2,433	Great job Hypo! Yeah, ain't NO WAY you're going to get cardio done after legs. I usually like to try and get in light cardio the day after legs just to work some blood into the legs, I usually don't get as sore by the second day.

07-18-2005, 07:04 PM	#20
JNo20 Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,095	Low intensity cardio is an awesome way to help the legs recover, I highly recommend it. Great workout, good job!

07-20-2005, 12:48 PM	#24
HypoPit New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 43	Wednesday, July 20th DC Blast 1 – Day 3 – 5AM (RP= Rest Paused, LT=Last Time, TT=This Time, SS=Straight Set) Hammer Flat Press LT: n/a TT: 180lbs X 25 RP Chest Stretch – 50lbs X 60 sec: the chest pain was so intense; my quads weren’t sore after doing this! Hammer Shoulder Press LT: n/a TT: 180lbs X 15 RP Shoulder Stretch X 60 secs Lying French Press LT: n/a TT: 75lbs X 24 RP Triceps Stretch – 30lbs X 60 secs Wide-grip Chins to the Front LT: n/a TT: (Assisted) 125lbs X 17 RP T-Bar Rows LT: n/a TT: 135lbs X 10 SS Back Stretch: 15 secs max! Cardio: 20 minutes on treadmill *Pretty good workout, didn’t’ seem as intense as my first two days. Trying to keep strict form. Disappointed about back stretch; I even used straps but 250lbs is a lot and my back needs a lot of work!

07-20-2005, 02:13 PM	#25
JNo20 Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 5,095	Good job Hypo. You're crazy for working out at 5 am, lol, but crazy people are all-to-often massive muscular freaks, so you're in good company!