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Old 07-10-2005, 06:36 PM   #1
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Interesting facts about water, soda's, coffee, and sport drinks

WATER

75% of Americans are chronically dehydrated. (Likely applies to half the world population)
In 37% of Americans, the thirst mechanism is so weak that it is often mistaken for hunger.
Even mild dehydration will slow down one's metabolism as much as 3%.
One glass of water will shut down midnight hunger pangs for almost 100% of the dieters studied in a U-Washington study.
Lack of water is the #1 trigger of daytime fatigue.
Preliminary research indicates that 8-10 glasses of water a day is capable of significantly easing back and joint pain for up to 80% of sufferers.
A mere 2% drop in body water is capable triggering fuzzy short-term memory trouble with basic math, and difficulty focusing on the computer screen or on a printed page.
Drinking 5 glasses of water daily decreases the risk of colon cancer by 45%, plus it is capable of slashing the risk of breast cancer by 79%, and one is 50% less likely to develop bladder cancer.
Water is free. Unlike a daily 20-ounce bottle of soda that will cost you $10.00 a week, tap water costs you nothing. That's $520.00 in savings per year!
Water assists to prevent bladder infections. Studies indicate that men who consume more than 10 glasses of water per day are less likely to develop bladder infections than those that did not.
Water helps keep your heart functioning. You have most likely heard that your bodies are not capable of lasting more than two to three days without water, though that you would be capable of going weeks without food. Water is required for very basic physiologic functions such as regulating blood pressure and body temperature, hydration and digestion (The body requires about 1.5 milliliters of water to absorb every calorie ingested).
Humans all require to drink more water. Here are some other facts not in Water vs Coke. The human body is about 60% water. Your muscles and your brain are about 75% water. Your blood is about 82% water. And your bones are about 25% water. The caffeine is a diuretic, which makes the body rid itself of water. So, your body requires water to survive and function properly.

One requires water to sustain one's physical and the physical body's many vital chemical reactions and maintain correct body temperature. Water also rehydrates you for the reason that during a workout, water is lost as perspiration (and expired air), and this is capable of leading to dehydration if fluids are not replaced. Another plus, drinking water before and during physical activity is capable of enhancing your athletic performance. It also assists the body to eliminate waste, which in turn is capable of reducing long-term risk of colon cancer.

According to a survey, nearly three quarters of Americans are aware of the recommendation of drinking eight 8-ounces servings a day, though only 34% actually drink this amount of water each day. Most humans consume only about 6 servings of water a day and nearly 10% declared that they do not drink water at all.

SODAS

All types of soft drinks are very acidic, especially colas, in order to neutralise a glass of cola, it takes 32 glasses of high pH alkaline water. It is clearly known by the medical profession that dis-ease loves acid. In fact, a physician from Loma Linda University declared in a speech that if we were capable of getting our cells to maintain a normal pH (slightly alkaline), cancer would not be capable of growing in the human body.

Active girls who drink cola drinks are five times more likely to have had bone fractures than girls who do not drink soda, according to a study published by Grace Wyshak of the Harvard School of Public Health (HSPH) and Harvard Medical School (HMS) in the June issue of the Archives of Pediatric and Adolescent Medicine.

A survey of 460 ninth and tenth grade girls found a correlation between drinking soft drinks and having broken bones. Girls drinking carbonated beverages were three times more likely to have a broken bone than girls not drinking them. Prior research has found that caffeine leaches calcium out of bones, leading to increased incidences of osteoporosis in the long term. This study attributes immediate damage to the phosphoric acid in colas. For more than a century your scientists have known that workers exposed to phosphorus suffered more broken bones. Sixteen-year-old girls currently consume an average or two-plus 12-ounce soft drinks daily. For boys, intake tops three 12-ounce soft drinks daily.

Francisco Contraries, M.D., of the Contraries Cancer Clinic in Tijuana, Mexico stated, "Cancer is like a plant cell; it can't live in an oxygen-rich environment. Cola drinks make our bodies poor in oxygen. Cancer is the second cause of death in America. The average American is consuming 800 or more soft drinks annually". Be more responsible for your own life. Doctors have no responsibility for another's health."

A three-year study of over 1,000 men with a history of kidney stones showed: "There was a clear-cut difference in the group's experiences, with much less renal colic in the men who had avoided soft drinks. Of those who continued to use soft drinks, there was also a big difference in outcome depending upon the nature of the soft drink consumed. Soft drinks acidified with phosphoric acid were the worst offenders. Colas of all kinds, of course, are well known for their high phosphoric acid content."

Did you know that one of the easiest ways to lower your risk of osteoporosis is to stop drinking colas? Colas contain phosphoric acid, which draws calcium from your bones. And, the sugar and caffeine in colas also have sodium-leaching effects!

The soft-drink industry as a whole has consistently portrayed its products as being "positively" healthful, saying they are 90% water and contain sugars found in nature.

M. Douglas Ivester, Coca-Cola's chairman and CEO, said, "Actually, our product is quite healthy. Fluid replenishment is a key to health....Coca-Cola does a great service because it encourages people to take in more and more liquids." New York Times. 26 May 1998

It is a fact that soft drinks pose health risks both for the reason that what they contain (for example, sugar and various additives) and what they replace in the diet (beverages and foods that provide vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients).

Nutritionally, soft drinks are low in value. Their food energy comes solely from refined sugar. Every element of nutritional importance, except calories, is zero. "Soft drinks have much in common with hard liquor", claimed the co-discoverer of insulin, Dr. Charles Best.

COFFEE

Coffee has over 1000 chemicals per cup of coffee, and 500 of them are known carcinogens. Caffeine is a "pesticide" given off by the bean to keep the bugs from eating it. Each cup of coffee contains about 120 mg of caffeine. Were that amount injected directly into your veins, you would physically die. It is a lethal dose. The rush you get from your coffee is your body speeding up your metabolism to rid itself of this poison, and your body steals water from everywhere to help flush the caffeine out. Please note that the International Olympic Committee has outlawed the use of caffeine for its events. Caffeine's harmful diuretic effects appear to outweigh any potential performance benefits. To protect themselves from the caffeine, women's bodies use calcium to neutralise it. You lose about 5 milligrams of calcium for every six ounces of coffee, or two cans of caffeinated soda.

SPORTS DRINKS

Sports drinks that contain a carbohydrate level greater than 8% or 2 gm/oz hinder the absorption of fluids into the body, thus having a perceived negative effect on the human body. Fruit juices have high levels of carbohydrates varying from 10% to 17%, so if one prefers to use fruit juice instead of water, than it ought to be diluted with water by 50%.

Though where to consume water or sports drinks really depends on three things:

The type
The amount of exertion you are getting,
The heat, and your own body.
In general, water is unsurpassed. After all, humans and almost all other land animals except a few rare desert species have evolved to thrive on water, not sports drinks. However, in certain situations, usually when doing prolonged and strenuous activity in hot weather, you may sweat so much that your body's electrolyte balance is compromised. That is when sports drinks come in.

Hyponatremia is a dangerous condition in which hikers sweat so much that their electrolytes go out of whack. It usually occurs when strenuous exercise takes place in extreme heat, and it is more common among ultra-endurance athletes and high-mileage long-distance hikers than among casual day hikers, although day hikers are capable of being affected in places where it is common for people to overextend themselves in severe heat. Drinking water alone does not solve the problem. In fact, drinking too much water after depleting your electrolytes actually makes things more serious.

Caffeinated drinks (tea, coffee, some sodas) are definitely an unclear idea in hot weather, for the reason that they are diuretics. That means that they actually contribute to dehydration. They are not such a hot idea in cold weather either, for the reason that caffeine is capable of contributing to hypothermia.

The sports drinks vs. water debate rages on: Water will always be an excellent fluid replacer for most recreational athletes who exercise for less than 60 to 90 minutes. Water is inexpensive, readily available, popular and what your body requires most. It settles comfortably and does a fine job of replacing sweat losses.

According to the Ohio State University Medical Center dietitian Beth Miller, there is no advantage to drinking sports drinks unless you are exercising for less than a solid hour.

Sports drinks are high in calories. Using them to "replenish" without exercising sufficiently are capable of actually leading to weight gain.

Obesity increases the risk of diabetes and cardiovascular dis-ease and causes severe social and psychological problems in millions of Americans. Between 1971-74 and 1988-94, obesity rates in teenage boys soared from 5% to 12% and in teenage girls from 7% to 11%. Among adults, between 1976-80 and 1988-94, the rate of obesity jumped by one-third, from 25% to 35%.

Many beverages, including water, provide water for the body to prevent dehydration. However, many substances in beverages (as opposed to water) have a large effect on how well your body retains this water as well as other side effects. Without listing them all, there are obvious limitations to drinking alcoholic beverages (due to ethanol), soda (due to sugar and synthetics), etc. In addition, there are times due to hot weather or health conditions that preclude the consumption of certain beverages.

When your body enters a state of ketosis it is extremely important during this time to drink plenty of water to flush out the ketones in your system.

Ketones are produced by the liver through metabolism of fatty acids. They are produced to provide a ready energy source from stored lipids at times of low carbohydrate availability. Though ketone bodies are always present in your body, levels increase to meet your extra energy requirements when you are fasting, involved in prolonged exercise, or release of "JUNK." Drinking water assists you to flush out the ketones from your system

Water also assists to flush other toxins out of your system, especially in the beginning when your body is still detoxing.

Water assists to flush out your kidneys, which is especially important part of healing.

Water also dilutes the bile in the gallbladder. After years and years of low fat diets your gallbladder is not used to working all that hard anymore.
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Old 07-10-2005, 07:59 PM   #2
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Old 07-11-2005, 02:19 PM   #3
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this part I don't understand:

Coffee has over 1000 chemicals per cup of coffee, and 500 of them are known carcinogens. Caffeine is a "pesticide" given off by the bean to keep the bugs from eating it. Each cup of coffee contains about 120 mg of caffeine. Were that amount injected directly into your veins, you would physically die. It is a lethal dose. The rush you get from your coffee is your body speeding up your metabolism to rid itself of this poison, and your body steals water from everywhere to help flush the caffeine out.


if this is true why do we use when dieting, to lean out?
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Old 07-11-2005, 03:47 PM   #4
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Here is one I typed on another board about sodas:

Carbonation is not the problem here with soft drinks, the reason why the carbonation gives a full feeling is due to the carbon dioxide gas released in your stomach, so it fills the stomach til you release most of the gas, but this is the real problem with soft drinks, Phosphoric Acid is used because phosphoric acid creates an acid medium that enhances the absorption of carbon dioxide, this reduces the pressure needed and allowing the mixture to be bottled with a cap. The carbon dioxide bubbles are released more slowly, especially if the mixture is chilled, that sour taste of the phosphoric acid is complemented by adding lots of sugar or sweetners if diet, the body maintains a concentration of phosphorus times calcium to equal potassium in the bloodstream to provide the right combination for building new bones and remodeling or repairing old ones, this shock of incoming phosphorus with zero calcium in a soft drink causes ionized Ca in the blood to decline, along with an excretion of Ca in the urine, the drop in blood Ca causes another body system to dissolve Ca from the bones taken from the teeth, spine and pelvic bones to make up the imbalance caused by the Ca lost in the blood. So over time you will have weakened bone structure or osteoporosis, our body dissolves more Ca from the bones than is needed in anticipation of more phosphoric acid shocks if you take in many sodas a day, the excess of Ca is eliminated by urine, deposits in joints like oteoarthritis, bursitis, gout, bone spurs, and bunions, stones like kidney stones, and deposits in arteries or calcified plaque. Phosphoric acid, like coffee, causes the body to use its alkaline minerals like sodium, potassium, magnesium, and calcium to neutralize the acid, so your body will loose minerals because the salts that are excreted in the urine, sodium depletion causes bile to become acidic and form mucoid plaque on the intestines, which causes colitis and other serious bowel diseases. Potassium and magnesium depletion can contribute to the development of heart disease, phosphoric acid is a very strong acid that causes the body to reduce secretion of hydrochloric acid that is used for digestion of protein and fats and the absorption of minerals, and you know bad digestion results in bloating and gas. Poor absorption of iron can result in anemia, and poor calcium absorption, will increse your chance of osteoporosis another thing not noticed is low stomach acidity is the overgrowth of harmful bacteria, yeasts and parasites in the gastrointestinal tract that had been held in check by adequate HCl, these creatures can break down the protective mucosal lining, penetrate into the bloodstream, lodge in organs and cause the formation of carcinogens that provoke cancer, so stay away from soda, drink water and green tea and tons of it...
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Old 07-11-2005, 04:58 PM   #5
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I'm looking at my bottle of diet ginger ale and I don't see phosphoric acid listed, so should I be ok drinking this?

(and yeah, I already drink over a gallon of water and several cups of green tea)
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90% of Colas have Phosphoric Acid, even in citrus sodas which contain citric acid instead of phosphoric acid, calcium is needed to maintain blood pH. It has been said that the fastest growing group of people with osteoporosis in this country is teenagersm because of the huge number of sodas they consume....
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Coffee has over 1000 chemicals per cup of coffee, and 500 of them are known carcinogens. Caffeine is a "pesticide" given off by the bean to keep the bugs from eating it. Each cup of coffee contains about 120 mg of caffeine. Were that amount injected directly into your veins, you would physically die. It is a lethal dose. The rush you get from your coffee is your body speeding up your metabolism to rid itself of this poison, and your body steals water from everywhere to help flush the caffeine out. Please note that the International Olympic Committee has outlawed the use of caffeine for its events. Caffeine's harmful diuretic effects appear to outweigh any potential performance benefits. To protect themselves from the caffeine, women's bodies use calcium to neutralise it. You lose about 5 milligrams of calcium for every six ounces of coffee, or two cans of caffeinated soda.
This I question. I would like to see more information on this. Sites etc.

Why would women's body's use calcium to neutralize the caffeine and not mens?

I think throwing around the word "pesticide" is a bit hyped to scare people.

And lots of things you could inject directly into your veins and die.


Really I think this is a sensationalized article with a clear bias.
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How much caffeine is there in drinks:

According to the National Soft Drink Association, the following is the caffeine content in mgs per 12 oz can of soda:

Jolt 71.2
Sugar-Free Mr. Pibb 58.8
Mountain Dew 55.0 (no caffeine in Canada)
Diet Mountain Dew 55.0
Mello Yellow 52.8
Tab 46.8
Coca-Cola 45.6
Diet Cola 45.6
Shasta Cola 44.4
Shasta Cherry Cola 44.4
Shasta Diet Cola 44.4
Mr. Pibb 40.8
OK Soda 40.5
Dr. Pepper 39.6
Pepsi Cola 37.2
Aspen 36.0
Diet Pepsi 35.4
RC Cola 36.0
Diet RC 36.0
Diet Rite 36.0
Canada Dry Cola 30.0
Canada Dry Diet Cola 1.2
7 Up 0

By means of comparison, a 7 oz cup of coffee has the following caffeine (mg) amounts, according to Bunker and McWilliams in J. Am. Diet. 74:28-32, 1979:


Drip 115-175
Espresso 100mg of caffeine
1 serving (1.5-2oz)
Brewed 80-135
Instant 65-100
Decaf, brewed 3-4
Decaf, instant 2-3
Tea, iced (12 ozs.) 70
Tea, brewed, imported 60
Tea, brewed, U.S. 40
Tea, instant 30
Mate 25-150mg
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Future, Heads up:

One of the main problems with the use of petrochemicals for coffee cultivation is that the chemicals are rarely used as directed. As a result, the health and welfare of coffee workers, their communities, and the environment are severely impacted.

Most coffee farmers are illiterate and cannot read the instructions on the manufacturers' labels. Necessary protective gear is rarely available to coffee farmers. Those who do have access to protective gear do not understand the importance of its use. Therefore, they will not wear it deeming it uncomfortable and impractical in the hot and humid conditions where coffee grows. Coffee workers are rarely made aware of the toxicity of the compounds with which they work. Together, these conditions contribute to worker accidents and environmental contamination throughout coffee growing regions.

In our years in the coffee business, we --the founders of ORCA -- have had difficulty finding verifiable information about petrochemical pesticide use in coffee cultivation. Our intention in presenting this research is to inform the public so they may make informed choices when buying their coffee.


The following agrochemicals are responsible for the toxic contamination of drinking water through runoff, the poisoning of aquatic life, migratory birdsą and bees vital to the pollination process. The compiling of this list is an ongoing project of the Organic Coffee Association.

DDT: DDT an organochlorine insecticide was banned for use in the United States in 1972 but is still widely available for use in coffee cultivation abroad. When Dean Cycon of Deans Beans in New England was in Nicaragua he was astounded to find DDT available for purchase off the shelf at an agrochemical shop. The highest danger of DDT use lies in its sustained persistence in the environment with a half life of 2-15 years and its immobility in most soils.2 Its low solubility in water makes it extremely toxic to many aquatic invertebrate species and fish. People eating fish contaminated with DDT can be exposed via bio-accumulation of DDT in the fish. Acute human exposure data and animal studies reveal that DDT can effect the nervous system, liver and kidney. Increased tumor production in the liver and lung have been observed in test animals. An association with pancreatic cancer was suggested in humans in one Study.3

Thiodan-Endosulphan: A highly toxic insecticide, Thiodan is widely used to combat the "Broca" a borer beetle that feeds on the coffee cherry. In July of 1993, 60 coffee farm workers in Colombia were poisoned and one killed as a result of exposure to Thiodan. More than 100 poisonings and three deaths were reported in 1994 in Colombia.4 Manufacturer. Hoechst, Germany



Paraquat-Gramaxone: Paraquat is exceedingly toxic to humans. Many cases of illness and/or death have been reported.5 The EPA has classified Paraquat as a possible human carcinogen.6 Ingestion is followed by nausea, vomiting, abdominal pain and diarrhea. Other effects include kidney failure, lung sores, and liver injury. Paraquat has been shown to be mutagenic in the human microorganism.7 It is an herbicide that is quick acting and non selective. It destroys green plant tissue on contact. It is banned for use in several Scandinavian countries. Manufacturer. Zeneca Ag Products 800 759-4500



2,4-D: 2, 4-D was a major component in Agent Orange, a defoliant used extensively in Vietnam. 2,4-D has produced serious eye and skin irritations among agricultural workers.9 10 Several studies in Sweden and the U.S. suggest an association with 2 4-D and cancer. An increased occurrence of non-Hodgkies lymphoma was found in a Kansas11 and Nebraska12 farm population associated with the spraying of 2 4-D. The compound has been detected in ground water supplies in at least five states and in Canada. Manufacturer. Rhone-Poulenc, Inc. (919) 549-2000


Furadan-Carbofuran: Death in humans may result from respiratory system failure associated with carbofuran exposure.13 Carbofuran is highly toxic to birds. Bird kills have occurred when birds ingested Carbofuran granules, which resemble grain seeds in size and shape, or when predatory or scavenging birds have ingested small birds or mammals which had eaten carbofuran pellets. One granule is sufficient to kill a small bird.14 It is very toxic to trout, coho salmon, perch, bluegills and catfish.15 Manufacturer. FMC Corperation 2000 Market Street, Philadelphia, PA 19103


Timet-Forato-Phorate: Effects on humans from Timet exposure include numbness, dizziness, tremor, nausea, breathing difficulty, and slowed heartbeat. High doses may result in convulsions, incontinence and fatality.16 Several poisoning cases involved workers from 16-18 years old, wearing inadequate protection while applying phorate to crops or working around machines used to apply phorate.17 18 Timet is very toxic to birds,19 bees,20 and fish.21 Manufacturer.American Cyanamid Co. Phone 201-831-2000 201-835-3100


Terbufos: An organophosphate insecticide and nematicide, Terbufos is highly toxic by both oral and ingestion and skin contact. Symptoms of acute toxicity often include abdominal cramps, vomiting, diarrhea, and excessive sweating within 45 minutes of ingestion. Absorption into the bloodstream may cause inhibition of cholinesterase, an enzyme essential for normal functioning of the nervous system. This in turn can lead to blurred vision, chest tightness, headache, slurred speech, and confusion. At high enough doses, death may result from respiratory arrest, respiratory muscle paralysis, and/or constriction of the lungs.22Terbufos is a granular insecticide and extremely toxic to birds, fish and aquatic vertebrates.23 Manufacturer. American Cyanamid (201) 831-2000



Diazinon: Diazinon is used in Guatemala Symptoms associated with poisoning in humans include tightness in the chest, blurred vision, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and slurred speech. Death has occurred in some instances from both skin contact and oral exposures at very high levels. Birds are significantly more susceptible to diazinon than other wildlife.24 In 1988 the EPA canceled the registration of diazinon for use on golf courses and sod farms They cited die-offs of birds which often congregate in these areas.25 Manufacturer. Ciba-Geigy Corp (919) 632-6M Malathion: Malathion is a general use pesticide used in coffee production to control "pulgones" or mites.26 Human exposures can occur through inhalation or through skin contact. Malathion has produced detectable mutations in three different types of cultured human cells including white blood cells and lymph cells.27 Malathion is highly toxic to aquatic invertebrates, cutthroat trout and brown trout.28 Manufacturer: Cheminova Agro A/S Lemvig Denmark



Oxamyl: Oxamyl is used to control a wide variety of insects, mites, ticks and worms. It's a highly toxic carbamate insecticide in EPA toxicity class 1. EPA has classified most products containing oxamyl as Restricted Use Pesticides due to oxamyl's acute toxicity to humans, birds and animals.29 It's high toxicity to bees, makes oxamyl's use especially destructive since bees are prime pollinators. Oxamyl's availability in granular form makes it especially dangerous to birds. Oxamyl is highly toxic to birds.30 Manufacturer. Dupont Agricultmal Products (800)-441-3637



Zineb: A general use pesticide, Zineb is metabolized in mammalian tissues into ETU (ethylenethiourea) and carbon disulfide. ETU has been classified as a probable human carcinogen by the EPA.31 Zineb is practically insoluble in water, and hydrolyzes rapidly producing ETL and other metabolites. In addition to having the potential to cause goiter, a condition in which the thyroid gland is enlarged, this metabolite has produced birth defects and cancer in lab animals.32 Pregnant women are advised to avoid exposure to zineb as it can damage the fetus, as well as cause adverse reproductive system effects.33 34 Manufacturer. ELF Atochem North America (215) 419-7219



Acephate: Acephate is an organophosphate insecticide. Exposure effects in humans can include heart block, central nervous system impairment, ocular pain, dark or blurred vision, cataracts, abdominal cramps, chest tightness, pulmonary edema, frothing and death due to respiratory failure.35 Acephate is considered toxic to bees36 and is available in granular form which makes it a danger to birds. Manufacturer. Valent USA (510) 256-2700



ORCA would like to thank The Pesticide Action Network and Ama Marston for their invaluable help with this project. Most of the information is this report comes from EXTOXNET's Pesticide Information Profiles (PIP) whose primary files are maintained at Oregon State University. EXTOXNET is a Pesticide Information Project of Cooperative Extension Offices of Cornell University, Oregon State University, The University of Idaho, and the University of California at Davis and the Institute for Environmental Toxicology, Michigan State University.

Waste from chemical
fertilizers & pesticides
leaches into the soil and
drains into the water
where it will continue to
poison our environment
for decades to come.

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This I question. I would like to see more information on this. Sites etc.

Why would women's body's use calcium to neutralize the caffeine and not mens?

I think throwing around the word "pesticide" is a bit hyped to scare people.

And lots of things you could inject directly into your veins and die.


Really I think this is a sensationalized article with a clear bias.
Still think the same. I will look into this as well.
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The following agrochemicals are responsible for the toxic contamination of drinking water through runoff, the poisoning of aquatic life, migratory birdsą and bees vital to the pollination process. The compiling of this list is an ongoing project of the Organic Coffee Association.
Isn't this saying that the water has these compounds just a big assumption though regarding the coffee? I am sure some pesticides are in the water but I still am thinking it seems pretty much an asusption. Granted who knows what goes on in third world nations.

Thanks for the info. I am gonna send this on and learn some more. If anything it seems that drinking organic coffee would be the clear choice. And still the questions and statements I originally posted are unanswered to a large degree.

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Coffee has over 1000 chemicals per cup of coffee, and 500 of them are known carcinogens. Caffeine is a "pesticide" given off by the bean to keep the bugs from eating it. Each cup of coffee contains about 120 mg of caffeine. Were that amount injected directly into your veins, you would physically die. It is a lethal dose. The rush you get from your coffee is your body speeding up your metabolism to rid itself of this poison, and your body steals water from everywhere to help flush the caffeine out.


if this is true why do we use when dieting, to lean out?
er.. sorta like how people used DNP? Food for thought.....some poeple use cocaine and meth when dieting. It works, but doesn't mean that its good for you...
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