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Old 01-18-2016, 04:51 PM   #1
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Knee problems. Need suggestions for squat and dead subs.

So basically after a long process of trying different things with the Doctor. We've come to that point where he sat me down and said look we've tried everything all that's left is the fact that you are going to need a new knee.

So that sucks. But unfortunately. Because of where am in the process with a few police department applications I simply cannot afford to be laid up for a few months for recover. Which my doctor understands and is working with me. Right now the key is pain management and trying to avoid exasperating the problem (degenerative cartilage, most likely due to lymes disease I'm told)

So to make a long story short. I need to swap some of my favorite staple exercises for either variations or methods or different movements all together to help avoid causing more pain. Squats are a no go. Front squats are OKish so long as I do higher reps and lower weight. Leg presses are OKish. Again higher reps lower weight. Extensions seem fine. So there's that. Tried hacks that's no good either. Messed with lunges etc and that's no good. Seems anything that has weight actually bearing down on the knee is no go. Flexing isn't the problem which is probably why extensions don't hurt much.

Deads are painful too. Which sucks those are my favorite. Higher rep lower weight is ok. Some days I feel it out. Sometimes I can go heavy and low reps if I'm feeling frisky. I usually pay for it though. Back extensions are ok. It feels a little better if I go lighter with a wider stance.

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Anyways. I can't stop working out. Have to stay in shape for the PDs but I work full time
And can't have pain causing me to have poor work performance either. So I need the experts here to teach me how to carry on without the golden staples of lifting. If I forgot to mention something that will help paint the picture let me know. Thanks again.


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Old 01-18-2016, 05:49 PM   #2
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man just lay off legs for awhile, what dept. is gonna hire you with a totally ##$%$# up knee?
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Old 01-18-2016, 05:51 PM   #3
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Knee problems. Need suggestions for squat and dead subs.

It's alright if I lay off it. I still make my run times and qualifiers etc. as far as what my record says. It doesn't.
Just nervous about laying off it completely because I don't want to lose what I have so far. Ya dig?

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Old 01-18-2016, 06:10 PM   #4
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i understand what you.re saying. thats a hardcore attitude, good luck with working it out. there are definitely some experienced people here who can help.
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Old 01-18-2016, 06:19 PM   #5
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I wonder if there isn't a lot of truth to what you just said tho. Like just drop everything that agitates the knee and just double up on the moves that don't. So instead of say. 2 sets of squats 2 sets of presses etc etc etc just go 4-6 sets of extensions and whatever. Instead of deads just do back extensions. Yeah no it's not as good but I wonder if it's still GOOD ENOUGH to get by. But then that's why I made this post.


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Old 01-18-2016, 06:35 PM   #6
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My best advice is to do something with incredibly low impact. The best thing here would be swimming honestly. When the muscles around the joint strengthen, along with the hips, you should be able to do something with more impact.
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Old 01-18-2016, 06:36 PM   #7
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Even with cartilage being the problem? Stronger muscles will
Impact that?


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Old 01-18-2016, 06:59 PM   #8
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From a very basic standpoint, yes. Muscles are supposed to assist protecting joints. Stronger muscles means less impact on the joint effected. Most of my clients who have some issues with joints in the lower extremities do really well in pools.. It's a zero impact activity because of buoyancy.

There are plenty of circumstances where this is limited but in your case I believe you have a lot to gain from pool exercises, not just swimming laps. Think about the benefits of zero impact on the joint while there is some resistance in all planes of motion.
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Old 01-18-2016, 07:00 PM   #9
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ProbAbly couldn't hurt. But I feel that for my relative weight class my legs are Relatively strong. Imo


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Old 01-18-2016, 09:05 PM   #10
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They could be, but I would question your hip strength if you have knee issues.
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Old 01-18-2016, 09:51 PM   #11
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From the feedback I'm getting from the Doctor the problems seems to more the lymes disease causing early aggressive arthritis


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Old 01-18-2016, 10:19 PM   #12
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Do Good Mornings instead of Back extensions, and RDL's or dimel deads instead of Deads. If it is one leg, I would just workout the other and be easy on the other one with the extensions.
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Old 01-18-2016, 11:56 PM   #13
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I took a look at dimel deads. I'll give a try. But the issue I think I'm gonna run into is that it's still placing a load bearing down on my knee joint and those exercises seem to be what's really creating problems.


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Old 03-16-2016, 04:35 PM   #14
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Whelp a few months later. It's feeling better. I still have bad days. Running sucks. But front squats with lighter weight and higher reps seems fine. I mostly just smash ass loads of leg extensions for quads. Gotta do what you gotta do. Bought some TN joint formula. Which was nice.

Side note. I'm looking into anti aging clinics in the DC metro area of Maryland to see about maybe getting HgH therapy. Because I've read that hgh has been used to treat degenerating cartilage. Anyone have an recommendations there? It looks like we deleted the gear page? That's odd cause that's where I was gonna go to ask. Anyways. If anyone is still following this let me know what you think.


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Dave Paulumbo just did a YouTube video of stem cell injections for his shoulder cartilage. He said he would follow that up with prp. You may want to look into those treatment options.
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Old 03-16-2016, 05:48 PM   #16
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Knee problems. Need suggestions for squat and dead subs.

I watched it. It was mentioned in the comments something about that stem cell is more of the next step of hgh no longer works. So I wonder if I shouldn't start there?

And of course there's also the added benefits of hgh

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Old 03-16-2016, 06:11 PM   #17
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Also my other interest in hgh is as my doctor pointed out. That if this is due to my lymes disease this problem could be occurring throughout my body. The right knee could just have been the first joint to begin experiencing pain( imbalances causing that knee to wear down earlier and whatnot) this could be systemic across my body and I just haven't noticed yet. Hgh will help to repair it all across the board. Where as stem cell is site specific. Which is exactly the problem I have with knee replacement. Yeah that's great. Replace the knee. And then if and when it's the elbow? Or the other knee? Maybe my shoulders or back? I'm not quite ready to get a cyborg yet


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Hgh for the win then
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Old 03-18-2016, 04:07 PM   #19
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Let's hope so. The issue right now is I'm 29 about to turn 30. The one place I got ahold of was basically like "no, *click*" I dunno. I mean it's not the end of the world. If that's what it takes I'll just put it off for 5 years lol.


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