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Old 07-17-2005, 03:49 PM   #101
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I doubt you really need something too fancy for the calves since you are already getting the drilled on the calf training. A 15 sec pause/stretch at the bottom for 12 reps will do nicely.

The lat stretches are pretty easy to perform. Just go by the description.

I think the pics were put up for some of the hard concepts in the stretching.
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:03 PM   #102
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:04 PM   #103
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From Dante himself:

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"Stretching:

CHEST: Flat bench 90lb dumbbells chest high--lungs full of air-- I drop down into the deepest flye I can for the first 10 seconds or so with my lungs full of air and chest out---then staying there I arch my back slightly and try to press my sternum upward --this is absolutely excruciating--the rest of the 60 seconds I try to concentrate on dropping my elbows even farther down (I try to but I don’t think they are going any lower--LOL)---the last 15 seconds I’m pretty much shaking like a leaf, I have tears in my eyes and I think about dropping bodybuilding and becoming a tap dancer on Broadway (ok that parts not true)--My opinion is people should use dumbbells that are a little over half of what your heaviest set of 6-8 reps would be. I cant state this enough--extreme stretching royally sucks!!! Its painful. But I have seen amazing things with people -especially in the quads.

TRICEPS: Seated on a flat bench-my back up against the barbell---75lb dumbell in my hand behind my head(like in an overhead dumbell extension)--sink dumbell down into position for the first 10 seconds and then an agonizing 50 seconds slightly leaning back and pushing the dumbell down with the back of my head I like one arm at a time in the bottom position of a dumbell triceps extension----going to the extreme stretch and then slightly pushing on the dumbell with the back of my head.

SHOULDERS: This one is tough to describe--put a barbell in the squat rack shoulder height--face away from it and reach back and grab it palms up (hands on bottom of bar)---walk yourself outward until you are on your heels and the stretch gets painful--then roll your shoulders downward and hold for 60 seconds.

BICEPS: Olympic bar in a power rack or squat rack about neck high---face away from it and reach back and put both hands over the bar gripping it----now either sink down with one leg forward/one leg back or better yet squat down and try (I say try because its absolutely excruciating) to kneel. Go down to the stretch that is almost unbearable and then hold that for 45 to 60 seconds. Your own bodyweight is the load. What I do is put the bar at a place on the squat rack in which I can kneel at a severe stretch and then try to sink my ass down to touch my feet. If its too easy I put the bar up to the next rung.

BACK: Honestly for about 3 years my training partner and I would hang a 100lb dumbell from our waist and hung on the widest chin-up bar (with wrist straps) to see who could get closest to 3 minutes--I never made it--I think 2 minutes 27 seconds was my record--but my back width is by far my best body part--I pull on a doorknob or stationary equipment with a rounded back now and its way too hard too explain here--just try it and get your feel for it.

HAMSTRINGS: Either leg up on a high barbell holding my toe and trying to force my leg straight with my free hand for an excruciating painful 60 seconds or another exercise I could only show people and not type here.

QUADS: Facing a barbell in a power rack about hip high --grip it and simultaneously sink down and throw your knees under the barbell and do a sissy squat underneath it while going up on your toes. then straighten your arms and lean as far back as you can---60 seconds and if this one doesn't make you hate my guts and bring tears to your eyes nothing will---do this one faithfully and tell me in 4 weeks if your quads don’t look a lot different than they used to.

CALVES: my weak body part that I couldn’t get up too par until 2 years ago when I finally thought it out and figured out how to make them grow (with only one set twice a week too) I don’t need to stretch calves after because when I do calves I explode on the positive and take 5 seconds to get back to full stretch and then 15 seconds at the very bottom "one one thousand, two one thousand, three one thousand etc" --15 seconds stretching at the bottom thinking and trying to flex my toes toward my shin--it is absolutely unbearable and you will most likely be shaking and want to give up at about 7 reps (I always go for 12reps with maximum weights)--do this on a hack squat or a leg press--my calves have finally taken off due to this. "
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Old 07-17-2005, 04:04 PM   #104
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:11 PM   #105
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So IH out of curiousity how long can you usually hold the back stretch?
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Old 07-17-2005, 05:37 PM   #106
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So IH out of curiousity how long can you usually hold the back stretch?
Well DC said to try for 3 minutes, at 1 minute my arms got 2" longer so my best with 100 lb DB is 1 minute 27 seconds, I started with my body weight til I got 3 minutes then I kept adding DBs, not sure if I will ever get past this damn 100 lber...
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Old 07-18-2005, 02:47 PM   #107
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Great thread! Thanks Dante & IH for the pics and comments.
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:50 AM   #108
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Thanxs dante & IH.

im still trying to nail the shoulder stretch.

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Old 07-26-2005, 04:08 AM   #109
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definitely great thread. Sheds a ton of light on everything.

I was wondering if anyone felt a little tweak in their shoulders during the tricep stretch. Should I be worried about it popping out? I don't think so, but it's a strange direction....
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Old 07-26-2005, 04:54 AM   #110
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my theory is that when my shoulders get to an extreme size they wont be able to move as much, like say you were 300 pounds you wouldnt be able to move your shoulder all over the place but if you were 100 pounds your shoulder would be flexible as your arm, the mass would constrict it from moving, so when i get bigger i will probably be crying when i do the stretch but until that point ill be using an alternate method

(that was a huge run-on sentence)
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:33 AM   #111
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i personally like the pull on a stationary pole stretch for lats. i feel the stretch alot more
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Old 07-26-2005, 11:52 AM   #112
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HH, I do this one as well:
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:33 PM   #113
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thats the one. i like it alot more. you can feel it all the way down to where the lat inserts at the waist
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:36 PM   #114
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You want to try a awesome Back Width exercise, grap the lower pulley handle on the cable station, and pull them like I am doing in that pic with the handle ending up near your side above your waist, RP those out for 20 reps...
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:38 PM   #115
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i do those every third rotation. it's feels like doing a chin but your nearly laying down on the bench. i love them, if you do them right it makes the lats cramp up so bad
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:40 PM   #116
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I just stand when I do them and I never let the weight stack touch between reps...
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:55 PM   #117
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You want to try a awesome Back Width exercise, grap the lower pulley handle on the cable station, and pull them like I am doing in that pic with the handle ending up near your side above your waist, RP those out for 20 reps...
1 arm at a time?
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Old 07-26-2005, 12:57 PM   #118
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Correct, one arm at a time...
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Old 07-26-2005, 01:31 PM   #119
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i actually do them slightly different than that, but i think ill try it your way next time
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Old 07-26-2005, 02:43 PM   #120
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LOL i would take your advice but the cable station isnt the best at my gym, i accidently broke it doing pushdowns and the owner doesnt want me to use it, lol.
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Old 07-27-2005, 01:38 AM   #121
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VERY IMPRESSIVE InHuman! You sure are thick, AND STRONG!!! Thanks for sharing that with us, it sure helps when you can see something instead of just reading about it.
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Old 08-14-2005, 02:58 AM   #122
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bump for prolangtum
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got the strecth down now, i did it just now no pain cold, so it should be good to go when im nice and pumped
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Old 08-22-2005, 03:47 PM   #124
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SOB this is a great info thread. Tks to DC and IH for taking the time (and pain, lol) to get these up. I think my questions are on-topic but if not, flame me and point me elsewhere. I have read and searched for about a month to try to get all ?s answered before posting (tks DC, IH, Gollum, jimpaul, Future, Massive G, Egill for posts), then I bugged Gollum (thanks G!) and now I'll ask "The Family."

1. Unless doing single-leg work for hams, how do you determine which hammie to stretch first after SLDL, curls, etc? And then, I assume you would switch it up from session to session i.e. left ham 1st on workout #1, right ham 1st on workout #2, etc?

2. I've gotten some input on this but other thoughts are welcome. Other than the hip-sled/leg-press, my calves are always slipping off the platform during the stretch after about 5sec and I find myself having to "reset" during the stretch, which blows. Part of the problem is the standing calf machine, which I love due to best results, has a metal platform with no sticktape so I'm always sliding right the f#ck off. ANy suggestions?

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Old 08-22-2005, 04:47 PM   #125
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i have to reset like 3 times throughtout the set everytime i do calves. no big deal. or just buy your own nonskid tape and slap it on when no one is looking.
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