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Old 01-22-2005, 08:05 PM   #1
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HOW TO CURE SHOULDER PROBLEMS (Trust me this will do it 90% of the time)

With a large towel or broomstick I want you to hold it with straight arms for the entire time of what i describe in the following movement--a large "rolled up like a rope" beach towel works good but honestly a longer broomstick (without the bristles) works best in my opinion. Start out with it with a really wide grip (with straight arms) in front of you (on your quads) and with straight arms bring it up and overhead and then down and back to the middle of your back--STRAIGHT ARMS ALL THE WAY--this is going to be very difficult and hard the first couple times out and then will be "old hat" with time----and its going to be painful in a stretching pump kind of way---i want 50 reps each time you do this--one repetition is from in front of your face (all with straight arms) to up overhead and back, and then down all the way to the middle of your back and then back up overhead to in front of your face again (again all with straight arms)--the important part of the movement is the area overhead that is really tight--do all of this carefully/slowly---dont just whip it over and back---if your hand is slipping off the broomstick even with the widest grip, or you cant bring your arms over straight and the start bending on you, you have some serious shoulder inflexibility and need to work this hard and get up to speed (or you could just need a longer broomstick too)--again do all of these revolutions controlled and carefully--push into the stretch as you go along toward the 50 revolutions, your chest will be pushing outward and your shoulders rolling back--your shoulders are going to blow up with so much blood its going to be incredibly painfull pumpwise--Do this once a day at nite as many times a week as you can---sometimes I have people do it every single day---but every time you do it try to move your grip inward (thats the key)----its going to be very hard to do but try your best to move your grip inward for the next 2-4 weeks and your range of motion with shoulders will increase dramatically and any impingement and the majority of other problems should be gone in 2 weeks--also try to move your grip in as you are doing the 50 revolutions--start off with a stretching but relatively easy 10 to warm up some, then try to move your grip in even by a centimeter if you can for the next 20 revolutions and then at 30 try to move the grip in another centimeter--really try to push what you can do stretchwise once your warmed up here--trust me this sounds easy but your going to be muttering "fuck you dante" after you get to your 25th revolution--Ive cured too many shoulder problems with this simple movement now its pretty ridiculous, and this and a menthol rub applied liberally daily and before sleep has cured alot of shoulder/bicepital tendonitis in trainees ---Heres a pic attached to this post so you can get an idea (thanks to a trainee of mine who cured his shoulders with this)--but remember the broomstick goes overhead and all the way back to the middle of the back (he just drew the start of the movement when you begin)
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:22 PM   #2
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Thanks DC for this i have a nagging right shoulder that isnt as bad as some of the guys have on this board but it does act up here and there. The question i have is if your doing this wont you be one sore mofo the next day to train shoulders if it happens to be a upperbody day the next day? Just curious to how it affects training cucz i can imagine 50repps like that really hurting especially if you have a bad shoulder.
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Old 01-22-2005, 08:22 PM   #3
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Another priceless post DC. I definitely better start up some of these, as I've got some pretty inflexible shoulders. Thanks a ton, bro.
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Thanks DC, but I don't understand what you mean when you say "all the way back to the hams." The way I'm reading it, you want us to have a near 360degree motion with shoulders and the whole time with arms being the same distance apart on the broom? LOL. If so, this will take a LOOOOONG time for me

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arms straight the whole way--and if you cant keep arms straight you have to widen the grip and/or get a longer broomstick (dont be gripping the broomstick with tights fists--let it roll thru your fingers if it has to as you go up and back)--i only hold onto it with my middle and pointer fingers and thumb
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I am the king of shoulder inflexability! All I can say is ouch!
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:45 AM   #7
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Thanks DC for this i have a nagging right shoulder that isnt as bad as some of the guys have on this board but it does act up here and there. The question i have is if your doing this wont you be one sore mofo the next day to train shoulders if it happens to be a upperbody day the next day? Just curious to how it affects training cucz i can imagine 50repps like that really hurting especially if you have a bad shoulder.
Id plan ahead tyson and do it around working shoulders--id skip the day before maybe and skip the day after but do it after working shoulders (while still warmed up--maybe when you got home from gym) and then on all the other days


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I have been doing this for almost 5 months now and when I started I could not reach all the way back to hit my Hams, I have to use a large exercise rubber band for width reasons and now I have no problem with going heavy on chest and shoulder presses again, I help others with lots of shoulder and back related injuries and this one exercise along with a few others for shoulders have fixed almost everyones problems so far to date...
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Old 01-23-2005, 01:08 PM   #9
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guys im really sorry, im on such low carbs come saturdays my brain seriously is shot lately and im making dumb mistakes, I had to edit my post above. If you use a beach towel or something similiar when you get overhead and down it will sag near your butt/ hamstrings ........but with a broomstick it wont go near that-it will go to the middle of your back and then back up again---really really sorry bout that---reread it now it should be clear-----with a broomstick the revolution should be about a half circle ---see the picture up above---that position exactly should be where you start your revolution once your warmed up with a broomstick and it should go overhead and down/back to a point halfway down that guys back, then back to start---is that clearer?
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I always wanted to tell you that you cannot turn your wrist in order to get the broomstick handle behind you, but I figured you must have triple jointed wrists or something, so I never said a word, but you can blame it on low carbs if you wish...
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guys im really sorry, im on such low carbs come saturdays my brain seriously is shot lately and im making dumb mistakes, I had to edit my post above. If you use a beach towel or something similiar when you get overhead and down it will sag near your butt/ hamstrings ........but with a broomstick it wont go near that-it will go to the middle of your back and then back up again---really really sorry bout that---reread it now it should be clear-----with a broomstick the revolution should be about a half circle ---see the picture up above---that position exactly should be where you start your revolution once your warmed up with a broomstick and it should go overhead and down/back to a point halfway down that guys back, then back to start---is that clearer?
I wondered what the hell you were writing. I'm very flexible (just ask KR :p ) but to the hamstrings? No way without bending backwards! lol
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Old 01-23-2005, 03:16 PM   #12
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i have always had trouble with my joints so this really interests me but i am not sure if i am following you 100% on how to do it. is this how far back you want (see drawing) or lower?
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thats about right--if its a broomstick---youll know once you get past the really tight position overhead
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Old 01-25-2005, 09:52 PM   #14
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I have a book called Autostretching that we use a lot for patients, and it has a great picture of this stretch in it - I put it on my desk to bring home so I could scan and post it for everyone, but I forgot it... I'll try to remember it for tomorrow night!
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Old 01-26-2005, 08:45 AM   #15
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I can do the exercise fine, however my left shoulder keeps clicking once I get past overhead and down my back. I had a partical tear in my rotator cuff 17 months ago but no pain now. Should I keep doing the exercise if there's no pain and will the clicking go away?
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Probably not a good thing to do with a partial tear of a rotator cuff muscle. The clicking probably won't go away - but if it doesn't hurt, don't be overly concerned with it. It could be anything from a tendon snapping over another structure to a labrum tear that your humeral head is rolling over - but if it doesn't cause pain it probably isn't a problem.
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Thanks PTAAron. I tore it in september of 2003. I was out for 6 months and I'm slowly working my way back into lifting heavy again. It hasn't caused any pain over the last six months. But when doing that exercise it kept clicking.
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is there any disadvantage to using a flex band, I've been using a light flex band and it hit my shoulder really well, right where the problem spot is, but whenever I get to the point overhead where it gets really tight my arms stretch the band just enough so I can go over. Compared to using a broom or towel (which wouldn't flex) is this a good option?

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Awesome Thread!!!
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gonna give this a go. I have had shoulder pain for many years. wrestling is hard on the body.
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i haven't been able to do inclines for the last fours years due to rotator cuff issues.

i've been doing l-flys, and external rotation for the last couple years to fix this, but nothing really helped (i also went to PT).

i did this stretch for seven days straight.

now i can do inclines, no problem. seven freakin days.

it works.

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Just a sidenote--I was contacted by the AMA and the NEJM on the shoulder dislocate stretch to become accredited and to recieve their stamp of approval. I told them "Screw off I already have been sniffy54approved" which in my opinion is the bodybuilding version of getting the Nobel prize
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this is an awesome post, shouldn't it be a sticky?
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Thanks DC, but I don't understand what you mean when you say "all the way back to the hams." The way I'm reading it, you want us to have a near 360degree motion with shoulders and the whole time with arms being the same distance apart on the broom?
Bump on that.

I really dont understand the part where youre supposed to bring the broomstick all the way to "the middle of your back". How are we to do this with straight arms. Kwyckemynd00, Im with you on this.

Am I just too thick in the head to get this? LoL.
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