How to cure shoulder problems (Trust me this will do it 90% of the time) - Page 6

Future · 07-15-2005, 02:31 PM

I liked this as well:

Quote:

These results suggest that when plasters containing counterirritants were externally applied on the skin, direct actions of percutaneously absorbed drugs on peripheral circulation are not expected, but a rise of muscle blood flow is thought to be induced by the spinal somato sympathetic reflex that will cause a suppression on tonic activity in the sympathetic vasoconstrictor nerve or a stimulation on beta-adrenoceptors referred to adrenaline released from the adrenal gland.

prolangtum · 07-18-2005, 12:55 AM

Ive been doing these for two days, as I have seemingly tweaked my rotator cuff. I thought initially it was some rear delt soreness, but after attempting my shoulder exercise, and not only having to drop an exercise for the first time, but also not being able to lift my arm directly overhead after, Im guessing it is a RC issue. My ROM is back to normal, but Ill be damned if I dont have some killer soreness. Not like the injury, but DOMS, in that rear delt/shoulder joint area, on both sides now. Is this normal?

Just a note, if this post was confusing, I started the exercise because of injuring my RC. I havent been doing it and than got injured. I think the culprit was DB pullovers, but it was not acute, I felt the pain the next day.

ThomasCrown · 07-23-2005, 06:16 PM

Hello everyone. My first post. I just found this site via BB.com

I'm about ready to head out to Home Depot to buy me a long stick out of stock wood. My broom handle is just a tad too short for me.

I have a question. I'm completely baffled by some of the posters here who make reference to a "picture" or "image" of this paticular excercise. And I don't see any pics or images anywhere. Being new to the site, perhaps I'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of it.

Can anyone inform me of how to access these pics?

Egill · 07-23-2005, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThomasCrown

Hello everyone. My first post. I just found this site via BB.com

I'm about ready to head out to Home Depot to buy me a long stick out of stock wood. My broom handle is just a tad too short for me.

I have a question. I'm completely baffled by some of the posters here who make reference to a "picture" or "image" of this paticular excercise. And I don't see any pics or images anywhere. Being new to the site, perhaps I'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of it.

Can anyone inform me of how to access these pics?

I think Creator a mod here cleaned up lot of old pics so to save space on the board (this post has been going on for a while).

Halbibabe · 07-23-2005, 09:21 PM

Ive been doing these for two days, as I have seemingly tweaked my rotator cuff. I thought initially it was some rear delt soreness, but after attempting my shoulder exercise, and not only having to drop an exercise for the first time, but also not being able to lift my arm directly overhead after, Im guessing it is a RC issue. My ROM is back to normal, but Ill be damned if I dont have some killer soreness. Not like the injury, but DOMS, in that rear delt/shoulder joint area, on both sides now. Is this normal?

Just a note, if this post was confusing, I started the exercise because of injuring my RC. I havent been doing it and than got injured. I think the culprit was DB pullovers, but it was not acute, I felt the pain the next day.

"I'm having the same problem in the rear delt area like a pinching and weird soreness, can somebody respond if this is normal."

Future · 07-24-2005, 10:49 PM

Just for reference because some were asking. This is a PDF file complete with a pic from PtAaron describing the stretch.

goes4ever · 07-24-2005, 10:58 PM

thank you future

steveo · 07-29-2005, 09:44 AM

hi I'm new to this forum and have just got back into lifting recently. I injured my shoulder about a year ago (bad fall snowboarding) and was told by the doctor that it was a problem with my AC joint but wasn't bad enough to consider surgery. Tried physio and cortisone injections which worked for a few weeks then back to normal. I started lifting weights again about 6 weeks ago (high reps, low weights) and can do most exercises apart from shoulder presses, bench presses, comfortably. When I do these 2 in particular I get a loud popping noise at the ac joint which can be painful.

Should I try the exercise described here or is it more for rotator cuff injuries. If so any exercises I should be doing to help ac joint problems.

cheers for any help

heavy hitter · 07-29-2005, 11:30 AM

try the exercise, believe me it'll help

heavy hitter · 07-29-2005, 11:33 AM

by the way, when is dc gonna come up with a great new fangled exercise for low back pain

dirtyveteran · 08-01-2005, 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Future

Just for reference because some were asking. This is a PDF file complete with a pic from PtAaron describing the stretch.

Thanks bros, this is also my first post , was refered here by somboyd from AR.
Thanks this is great info and i will start the exercise tomorrow. i really hgope this helps my R shoulder. Dirt bike accident..!!

~DV~

Havikkk · 08-04-2005, 02:28 PM

Just did 25 and felt it quite a bit but I think I will do this every night for a while.
Thanks.

**Doggcrapp** · 08-04-2005, 02:58 PM

Inhuman does these with a 315lb barbell

rockdaddy · 08-04-2005, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggcrapp

Really?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...67&query_hl=10

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/q...30&query_hl=10

"CONCLUSIONS AND CLINICAL RELEVANCE: Application of MEN analgesic balm to the skin over contracting muscles significantly decreased the pressor response to static muscle contractions. This suggests that topical application of MEN has effects on responses evoked from receptors located in muscles."

thats a big yes on those studies in my book...i know that rub-on creams such as sportscreme really helps my aching shoulders and knees, for warm up AND after workout soreness.

TallMan · 08-05-2005, 09:15 AM

hi, I'm new here, someone gave me the link to this thread.

I posted this on dutchbodybuilding.com and people are very sceptic about this exercise
saying it would fuck up your shoulder even more.

I've had an shoulder operation 4 months ago and started training again a month ago,
but I've added weight to fast and since 3 weeks my shoulder hurts again.

If I wanna do this exercise, shouldn't I at least wait till the pain is gone or should
I just start out with it ?

**Doggcrapp** · 08-05-2005, 11:22 AM

Tell those people on dutchbodybuilding that theres 6 pages of people here, pages of people at bb.com and pages of people at promuscle who could care less about their opinion.

Future · 08-05-2005, 03:46 PM

"Hey everyone, I'm from Holland. Isn't the vierd?" or "There's only two things I can't stand: intolerance and the Dutch."

Worthy quotes from Goldmember.

steveo · 08-08-2005, 04:58 AM

I started this exercise along with some rotator cuff drills with light dumbells about 8 days ago. I am worried as the shoulder does seem to be getting worse. The popping/crunching noises have increased and the point of pain is beginning to spread from the ac joint along my clavicle. Is there a period that you go through pain before you start to reap the benefits or should I stop this exercise straight away.

**Doggcrapp** · 08-08-2005, 01:23 PM

self explanatory

skullsmaher · 08-18-2005, 04:54 AM

unfortunately, this type of movement I see would be something I would do if I was TRYING to dislocate my shoulder. I will try to build up the confidence to do this movement. If you can move your shoulder in this range of motion, I dont see why you would be doing them to increase mobility. It seems like you would need to be mobile to do it in the first place. Am I missing something? I got my hopes up when I saw the thread title.

MilkmaN · 08-23-2005, 10:17 AM

Seems like a good exercise, I'll try it out for some time and come back with results. Just wish that you could have splitted the original text into a more readable format.

noginn · 08-23-2005, 10:49 AM

Just wanting to say a big thank you Dante (Think thats DoggCrapp's name after reading through a bit? :p) for this. I was pointed here like a few others from BB.com

At current I have some form of shoulder impingement injury (or so it feels). After a few days rest and some mentol rub cream the pain has subsided a little so I thought I would try this exericse.

I think my shoulder flexability is really quite bad, maybe one of the reason I injured myself. Although after just having a go at this, doing only 5 reps to get the hang of it. I swear something has happened to my shoulder.. what little pain there was has almost disapeared.

I'm going to do this every night, or every other night, try to improve flexability and prevent future injuries.

Later on it's time for me to mutter "damn you dante" as I attempt 50 reps

MilkmaN · 08-23-2005, 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skullsmaher

unfortunately, this type of movement I see would be something I would do if I was TRYING to dislocate my shoulder. I will try to build up the confidence to do this movement. If you can move your shoulder in this range of motion, I dont see why you would be doing them to increase mobility. It seems like you would need to be mobile to do it in the first place. Am I missing something? I got my hopes up when I saw the thread title.

That was my first thought too. You'll just have to widen your grip and you wont have to to dislocate your shoulder.

ProtoBuilder · 08-24-2005, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavy hitter

by the way, when is dc gonna come up with a great new fangled exercise for low back pain

I've been wondering if back bridges would help by increasing flexibility in the spine . . . as you get more limber, you can bridge w/ your feet closer to your hands until you eventually form a "C" shape I s'pose!

hovz · 09-04-2005, 04:56 AM

wow been doin this 4 days and my shoulder feels A LOT better.

can someone who knows their shit explain to me how somethign so simple can improve your shoulder in only 4 days? and its amazing how fast ur flexibility increases, ive already moved my hands in 5 to 6 inches on each side.

07-23-2005, 09:21 PM	#130
Halbibabe New Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 8	Same problem Ive been doing these for two days, as I have seemingly tweaked my rotator cuff. I thought initially it was some rear delt soreness, but after attempting my shoulder exercise, and not only having to drop an exercise for the first time, but also not being able to lift my arm directly overhead after, Im guessing it is a RC issue. My ROM is back to normal, but Ill be damned if I dont have some killer soreness. Not like the injury, but DOMS, in that rear delt/shoulder joint area, on both sides now. Is this normal? Just a note, if this post was confusing, I started the exercise because of injuring my RC. I havent been doing it and than got injured. I think the culprit was DB pullovers, but it was not acute, I felt the pain the next day. "I'm having the same problem in the rear delt area like a pinching and weird soreness, can somebody respond if this is normal."

07-24-2005, 10:49 PM	#131
Future Super-heavyweight Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,478	Just for reference because some were asking. This is a PDF file complete with a pic from PtAaron describing the stretch. __________________ Team Skip Client

07-24-2005, 10:58 PM	#132
goes4ever New Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 47	thank you future __________________ MOD @ PowerBuilding.net

07-29-2005, 11:30 AM	#134
heavy hitter Heavyweight Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: peoria, AZ Posts: 2,300	try the exercise, believe me it'll help __________________ My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable. I'm unna eat your style, i'm unna eat your style's kids.

07-29-2005, 11:33 AM	#135
heavy hitter Heavyweight Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: peoria, AZ Posts: 2,300	by the way, when is dc gonna come up with a great new fangled exercise for low back pain __________________ My style is impetuous, my defense is impregnable. I'm unna eat your style, i'm unna eat your style's kids.

07-18-2005, 12:55 AM	#127
prolangtum Light-heavyweight Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 758	Ive been doing these for two days, as I have seemingly tweaked my rotator cuff. I thought initially it was some rear delt soreness, but after attempting my shoulder exercise, and not only having to drop an exercise for the first time, but also not being able to lift my arm directly overhead after, Im guessing it is a RC issue. My ROM is back to normal, but Ill be damned if I dont have some killer soreness. Not like the injury, but DOMS, in that rear delt/shoulder joint area, on both sides now. Is this normal? Just a note, if this post was confusing, I started the exercise because of injuring my RC. I havent been doing it and than got injured. I think the culprit was DB pullovers, but it was not acute, I felt the pain the next day.

07-23-2005, 06:16 PM	#128
ThomasCrown New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SanDiego Posts: 2	Hello everyone. My first post. I just found this site via BB.com I'm about ready to head out to Home Depot to buy me a long stick out of stock wood. My broom handle is just a tad too short for me. I have a question. I'm completely baffled by some of the posters here who make reference to a "picture" or "image" of this paticular excercise. And I don't see any pics or images anywhere. Being new to the site, perhaps I'm unfamiliar with the mechanics of it. Can anyone inform me of how to access these pics?

07-29-2005, 09:44 AM	#133
steveo New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2	hi I'm new to this forum and have just got back into lifting recently. I injured my shoulder about a year ago (bad fall snowboarding) and was told by the doctor that it was a problem with my AC joint but wasn't bad enough to consider surgery. Tried physio and cortisone injections which worked for a few weeks then back to normal. I started lifting weights again about 6 weeks ago (high reps, low weights) and can do most exercises apart from shoulder presses, bench presses, comfortably. When I do these 2 in particular I get a loud popping noise at the ac joint which can be painful. Should I try the exercise described here or is it more for rotator cuff injuries. If so any exercises I should be doing to help ac joint problems. cheers for any help

08-04-2005, 02:28 PM	#137
Havikkk Bantamweight Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 175	Just did 25 and felt it quite a bit but I think I will do this every night for a while. Thanks.

08-04-2005, 02:58 PM	#138
Doggcrapp Super Moderator/Roundtable Expert Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,924	Inhuman does these with a 315lb barbell __________________ For Online Training Inquiries please contact DC@cyber-rights.net http://www.trueprotein.com-the highest quality at the rock bottom lowest price Want to create your own supplement line? We can create any product you desire (powders, capsules, dieting aids, testosterone boosters, proteins, you name it, we can make it for you.) Serious inquiries only please (supplements are usually at least 250 bottle minimum, protein 100 jug minimum) just email Carl@trueprotein.com

08-05-2005, 09:15 AM	#140
TallMan New Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2	hi, I'm new here, someone gave me the link to this thread. I posted this on dutchbodybuilding.com and people are very sceptic about this exercise saying it would fuck up your shoulder even more. I've had an shoulder operation 4 months ago and started training again a month ago, but I've added weight to fast and since 3 weeks my shoulder hurts again. If I wanna do this exercise, shouldn't I at least wait till the pain is gone or should I just start out with it ?

08-05-2005, 11:22 AM	#141
Doggcrapp Super Moderator/Roundtable Expert Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,924	Tell those people on dutchbodybuilding that theres 6 pages of people here, pages of people at bb.com and pages of people at promuscle who could care less about their opinion. __________________ For Online Training Inquiries please contact DC@cyber-rights.net http://www.trueprotein.com-the highest quality at the rock bottom lowest price Want to create your own supplement line? We can create any product you desire (powders, capsules, dieting aids, testosterone boosters, proteins, you name it, we can make it for you.) Serious inquiries only please (supplements are usually at least 250 bottle minimum, protein 100 jug minimum) just email Carl@trueprotein.com

08-05-2005, 03:46 PM	#142
Future Super-heavyweight Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 5,478	"Hey everyone, I'm from Holland. Isn't the vierd?" or "There's only two things I can't stand: intolerance and the Dutch." Worthy quotes from Goldmember. __________________ Team Skip Client

08-08-2005, 04:58 AM	#143
steveo New Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 2	I started this exercise along with some rotator cuff drills with light dumbells about 8 days ago. I am worried as the shoulder does seem to be getting worse. The popping/crunching noises have increased and the point of pain is beginning to spread from the ac joint along my clavicle. Is there a period that you go through pain before you start to reap the benefits or should I stop this exercise straight away.

08-08-2005, 01:23 PM	#144
Doggcrapp Super Moderator/Roundtable Expert Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 10,924	self explanatory __________________ For Online Training Inquiries please contact DC@cyber-rights.net http://www.trueprotein.com-the highest quality at the rock bottom lowest price Want to create your own supplement line? We can create any product you desire (powders, capsules, dieting aids, testosterone boosters, proteins, you name it, we can make it for you.) Serious inquiries only please (supplements are usually at least 250 bottle minimum, protein 100 jug minimum) just email Carl@trueprotein.com

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08-18-2005, 04:54 AM	#145
skullsmaher Bantamweight Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 175	unfortunately, this type of movement I see would be something I would do if I was TRYING to dislocate my shoulder. I will try to build up the confidence to do this movement. If you can move your shoulder in this range of motion, I dont see why you would be doing them to increase mobility. It seems like you would need to be mobile to do it in the first place. Am I missing something? I got my hopes up when I saw the thread title. Last edited by skullsmaher : 08-21-2005 at 02:54 PM.

08-23-2005, 10:17 AM	#146
MilkmaN New Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4	Seems like a good exercise, I'll try it out for some time and come back with results. Just wish that you could have splitted the original text into a more readable format.

08-23-2005, 10:49 AM	#147
noginn New Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 2	Just wanting to say a big thank you Dante (Think thats DoggCrapp's name after reading through a bit? :p) for this. I was pointed here like a few others from BB.com At current I have some form of shoulder impingement injury (or so it feels). After a few days rest and some mentol rub cream the pain has subsided a little so I thought I would try this exericse. I think my shoulder flexability is really quite bad, maybe one of the reason I injured myself. Although after just having a go at this, doing only 5 reps to get the hang of it. I swear something has happened to my shoulder.. what little pain there was has almost disapeared. I'm going to do this every night, or every other night, try to improve flexability and prevent future injuries. Later on it's time for me to mutter "damn you dante" as I attempt 50 reps

09-04-2005, 04:56 AM	#150
hovz New Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 2	wow been doin this 4 days and my shoulder feels A LOT better. can someone who knows their shit explain to me how somethign so simple can improve your shoulder in only 4 days? and its amazing how fast ur flexibility increases, ive already moved my hands in 5 to 6 inches on each side.

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