How to cure shoulder problems (Trust me this will do it 90% of the time) - Page 3

Future · 03-05-2005, 11:49 AM

Awesome Thread!!!

maxmuscle245 · 03-06-2005, 12:13 AM

gonna give this a go. I have had shoulder pain for many years. wrestling is hard on the body.

sniffy54 · 03-06-2005, 12:14 AM

i haven't been able to do inclines for the last fours years due to rotator cuff issues.

i've been doing l-flys, and external rotation for the last couple years to fix this, but nothing really helped (i also went to PT).

i did this stretch for seven days straight.

now i can do inclines, no problem. seven freakin days.

it works.

"sniffy54approved"

**Doggcrapp** · 03-06-2005, 02:01 AM

Just a sidenote--I was contacted by the AMA and the NEJM on the shoulder dislocate stretch to become accredited and to recieve their stamp of approval. I told them "Screw off I already have been sniffy54approved" which in my opinion is the bodybuilding version of getting the Nobel prize

PTAaron · 03-06-2005, 02:46 AM

Egill · 03-06-2005, 08:19 PM

this is an awesome post, shouldn't it be a sticky?

eqblues · 03-06-2005, 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwyckemynd00

Thanks DC, but I don't understand what you mean when you say "all the way back to the hams." The way I'm reading it, you want us to have a near 360degree motion with shoulders and the whole time with arms being the same distance apart on the broom?

Bump on that.

I really dont understand the part where youre supposed to bring the broomstick all the way to "the middle of your back". How are we to do this with straight arms. Kwyckemynd00, Im with you on this.

Am I just too thick in the head to get this? LoL.

eqblues · 03-06-2005, 08:51 PM

NEVER-freakin-MIND! I just saw the pics and the charts and its clear as day. Thanks to all of you but specially Dante for a great post.

hachat11 · 03-07-2005, 01:55 PM

Awesome thread Dante. Hopefully my shoulders will be thanking you soon. I messed them up with crappy form in college and they still irritate me every now and then. They've hurt lately and I came upon this thread thank goodness. My first try will be today.

rcs6856 · 03-07-2005, 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sniffy54

now i can do inclines, no problem. seven freakin days.

Too bad you can't do dips anymore.

sniffy54 · 03-07-2005, 09:51 PM

nah dude i'll just do the reverse-shoulder dislocation stretch before dips.

Easto · 03-16-2005, 12:36 PM

I know this thread is old, but I wanted to throw in my experience.

2 years ago, I was being towed behind a boat tubing. I never fell off or anything, but when I got back on the boat my shoulder started to stuffen up on me. later that night that the pain was so bad, I couldn't even change myself. My arm was basically stuck to my side and if I moved it even a fraction of an inch I would hunch over in pain.

For the next week I basically lived on pain killers, but still the pain was so bad that I was I sweating all day trying to deal with the pain.

By the time I got back to the gym, I went from doing 120lb DB inclines, to not even being able to move 20lb DBs due to the pain. I was out of the gym for a good 6 months losing a lot of what I worked so hard for.

I spent hours at the doctors, Ultrasound, X-ray, and MRI which didn't show any significant damage. There was something wrong in there, but the surgeon didn't see anything he could go in there and fix.

My shoulder has been getting slightly better over time, but I have never been able to to extend my arms straight out the the side, bend my elbow 90 degrees, then rotate my arm. External rotation was out of the question, my should would clink, then lock on me.

After some time I read this thread by DC and I thought..... yah it may help, but I doubt it will do much in my case.

The frist time I tried it I did about 15 "reps". The second time I tried it I did about 10 "reps" and the last time 20. I wasn't too serious, but I wanted to try it out.

About one week later I was totally pain free.. SERIOUSLY. I had a nagging shoulder in jury that was bugging me for years and this is all it took. For the first time since that on day in July I have zero pain and zero discomfort.

Well, there is my 2 cents. This exercise gets a thumbs up from me

Sparky · 03-16-2005, 01:12 PM

Wow... my right shoulder has been bugging me and I tried this. I already feel a little better.

Thanks for the great suggestion!

bigcity · 03-16-2005, 01:40 PM

Yeah i do this and get my shoulders worked on every so offten from a massage therapist and already feel so much better. This stretch is real painfull but becoming alot more toralable

drinu · 03-17-2005, 08:10 AM

yeah i started these shoulder stretches to any they are really good i used bought elastic bands and a stick , its much more harderwith a stick as with an elastic you can stretch it as much as you want so it becomes too easy

goliath23 · 03-17-2005, 01:25 PM

Ok I tried this earlier today, I'm pretty sure i did this the right way. the only weird part is that i hear people saying that they couldnt do more than 10 or 15 to start off with. I got over 70 this morning. i tried bringing my hands closer together but as i got to a certain point it just wouldnt go, so i went as narrow as i possibly could so i could actualy get past the top part off the movement. am i just weird because i could have kept going, my shoulders got a little burn but nothing i couldnt handle and I felt it in my shoulder blades. should I just keep going and continue to keep trying to narrow my grip?

SWW007 · 03-27-2005, 11:48 AM

Bump for great thread!

w8liftr · 03-27-2005, 08:21 PM

Thanks, I really need to try this.

jimpaul · 03-28-2005, 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goliath23

Ok I tried this earlier today, I'm pretty sure i did this the right way. the only weird part is that i hear people saying that they couldnt do more than 10 or 15 to start off with. I got over 70 this morning. i tried bringing my hands closer together but as i got to a certain point it just wouldnt go, so i went as narrow as i possibly could so i could actualy get past the top part off the movement. am i just weird because i could have kept going, my shoulders got a little burn but nothing i couldnt handle and I felt it in my shoulder blades. should I just keep going and continue to keep trying to narrow my grip?

I would say to keep it wide as Dante suggested and not narrow the grip. If you got 70 then 100 sounds feasible (sp?).

Moen · 03-28-2005, 08:07 AM

I think it has to do with endurance, I can easily do a 100 too and my shoulders are seriously fucked up :p

Hanuman · 03-28-2005, 10:26 AM

Thanks once again DC !

chunky34 · 03-28-2005, 08:48 PM

When I do this, I hear a pop about every rep. Is this normal ?

jimpaul · 03-28-2005, 09:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunky34

When I do this, I hear a pop about every rep. Is this normal ?

I'm wondering if you have ever had any previous shoulder issues because I'm wondering if it could be due to you either having some sort of rotator cuff issues or instability issues?

Hopefully someone who knows more can kick in!

jim

Moen · 03-29-2005, 12:56 PM

Yes to jimpaul and chunky

I have both rotator and instability issues on both shoulders and they pop at every overhead rotation (at the moment I go overhead with this stretch) for the first 20-30 reps, after that my shoulders seem somewhat oiled and it stops popping.

Gaius · 03-29-2005, 07:34 PM

Are your shoulders suppose to sort of dislocate after you take it past your neck and downward behind you with your arms still strait?

03-05-2005, 11:49 AM	#51
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maxmuscle245 New Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 15	gonna give this a go. I have had shoulder pain for many years. wrestling is hard on the body. __________________ "The worst thing I can be is just like everyone else."-ARNOLD

03-06-2005, 02:01 AM	#54
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03-06-2005, 12:14 AM	#53
sniffy54 Heavyweight Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,242	i haven't been able to do inclines for the last fours years due to rotator cuff issues. i've been doing l-flys, and external rotation for the last couple years to fix this, but nothing really helped (i also went to PT). i did this stretch for seven days straight. now i can do inclines, no problem. seven freakin days. it works. "sniffy54approved"

03-06-2005, 08:51 PM	#58
eqblues New Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: The deep south Posts: 5	NEVER-freakin-MIND! I just saw the pics and the charts and its clear as day. Thanks to all of you but specially Dante for a great post. __________________ My best friends name is Deadlift

03-07-2005, 01:55 PM	#59
hachat11 Bantamweight Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 115	Awesome thread Dante. Hopefully my shoulders will be thanking you soon. I messed them up with crappy form in college and they still irritate me every now and then. They've hurt lately and I came upon this thread thank goodness. My first try will be today.

03-07-2005, 09:51 PM	#61
sniffy54 Heavyweight Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: NJ Posts: 1,242	nah dude i'll just do the reverse-shoulder dislocation stretch before dips. Last edited by sniffy54 : 03-07-2005 at 09:55 PM.

03-16-2005, 12:36 PM	#62
Easto Lightweight Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: CANADA Posts: 415	I know this thread is old, but I wanted to throw in my experience. 2 years ago, I was being towed behind a boat tubing. I never fell off or anything, but when I got back on the boat my shoulder started to stuffen up on me. later that night that the pain was so bad, I couldn't even change myself. My arm was basically stuck to my side and if I moved it even a fraction of an inch I would hunch over in pain. For the next week I basically lived on pain killers, but still the pain was so bad that I was I sweating all day trying to deal with the pain. By the time I got back to the gym, I went from doing 120lb DB inclines, to not even being able to move 20lb DBs due to the pain. I was out of the gym for a good 6 months losing a lot of what I worked so hard for. I spent hours at the doctors, Ultrasound, X-ray, and MRI which didn't show any significant damage. There was something wrong in there, but the surgeon didn't see anything he could go in there and fix. My shoulder has been getting slightly better over time, but I have never been able to to extend my arms straight out the the side, bend my elbow 90 degrees, then rotate my arm. External rotation was out of the question, my should would clink, then lock on me. After some time I read this thread by DC and I thought..... yah it may help, but I doubt it will do much in my case. The frist time I tried it I did about 15 "reps". The second time I tried it I did about 10 "reps" and the last time 20. I wasn't too serious, but I wanted to try it out. About one week later I was totally pain free.. SERIOUSLY. I had a nagging shoulder in jury that was bugging me for years and this is all it took. For the first time since that on day in July I have zero pain and zero discomfort. Well, there is my 2 cents. This exercise gets a thumbs up from me __________________ www.TrueProtein.com www.TrueProteinCanada.com KEE774 Use this code and save $$$ TeamSKIP Blend

03-16-2005, 01:12 PM	#63
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03-16-2005, 01:40 PM	#64
bigcity IntenseMuscle VIP Member/ Intense Set of the Month May 2007 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: In my own reality Posts: 2,893	Yeah i do this and get my shoulders worked on every so offten from a massage therapist and already feel so much better. This stretch is real painfull but becoming alot more toralable __________________ Limousine ridin, jet flying, kiss stealin, wheelin dealing, son of a gun WHOOOO!!!!

03-17-2005, 08:10 AM	#65
drinu Bantamweight Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: sliema(malta) Posts: 132	yeah i started these shoulder stretches to any they are really good i used bought elastic bands and a stick , its much more harderwith a stick as with an elastic you can stretch it as much as you want so it becomes too easy

03-17-2005, 01:25 PM	#66
goliath23 Heavyweight Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: ottawa Posts: 2,205	Ok I tried this earlier today, I'm pretty sure i did this the right way. the only weird part is that i hear people saying that they couldnt do more than 10 or 15 to start off with. I got over 70 this morning. i tried bringing my hands closer together but as i got to a certain point it just wouldnt go, so i went as narrow as i possibly could so i could actualy get past the top part off the movement. am i just weird because i could have kept going, my shoulders got a little burn but nothing i couldnt handle and I felt it in my shoulder blades. should I just keep going and continue to keep trying to narrow my grip?

03-27-2005, 11:48 AM	#67
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03-27-2005, 08:21 PM	#68
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03-28-2005, 08:07 AM	#70
Moen Bantamweight Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 123	I think it has to do with endurance, I can easily do a 100 too and my shoulders are seriously fucked up :p

03-28-2005, 10:26 AM	#71
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03-28-2005, 08:48 PM	#72
chunky34 Lightweight Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: DR'Ville, Qc Posts: 258	When I do this, I hear a pop about every rep. Is this normal ? __________________ God Bless, True protein discount code : JFA999

03-29-2005, 12:56 PM	#74
Moen Bantamweight Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 123	Yes to jimpaul and chunky I have both rotator and instability issues on both shoulders and they pop at every overhead rotation (at the moment I go overhead with this stretch) for the first 20-30 reps, after that my shoulders seem somewhat oiled and it stops popping.

03-29-2005, 07:34 PM	#75
Gaius New Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 89	Are your shoulders suppose to sort of dislocate after you take it past your neck and downward behind you with your arms still strait?

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