Originally Posted by kanuki10

First carb-cut offs. I get to bed around 9:30. If I had a big dose of carbs at 5:30, even given the physical nature of my evening job as a security guard, I would worry about BF, so I get my last dose of carbs around 4:30. Which for me is an hour after the gym and right before work, so it works well. At 6:30 I usually have 9 ounces of broccoli, 4 ounces chicken and an ounce of almonds, prepared in a variety of ways. I count that as a P/F meal. But even then, that broc and almonds has carbs and even sugars. Still, they are generally "not counted". My last meal before bed is an ounce of walnuts and either a cup of LF cottage cheese or a casein shake + glut and BCAAs. Carbs are still there, but still, no one is going to confuse an once of walnuts with a cup of rice, despite having similar amounts of cals.
My real caveat is that earlier in the day I have always tended to have P/F/C meals and thought it was good. Like having eggs(P/F) whole wheat toast with peanut butter(C/F) and somtimes fruit, like an apple. I would venture it is a bad idea to mix "quick carbs" such as corn syrup and processed sugars with fats of any kind. One wants to digest quickly, one want to go slow, all sort of problems in large amounts. But "slow carbs" such as oatmeal and most fruits with fiber, are already going to digest slower, along with the fats pace, so I found it acceptable to pair them, at least earlier in the day. This at least works for me, but I would love to hear other opinions. I realize there are some grey areas. Such as FF milk. It has a good amount of sugar, but how do those digest? I personally don't know if milk is an alright source of protein after cut-off.

Originally Posted by kanuki10

Also, if you need to eat, say, 330g of protein a day. Do you count ALL your sources, including veggies, beans, grains, etc? Or do you tend to only concern yourself with either animal derived or "whole" protein.