Muscle building program which has worked great for me, but??

Jamesxx187 · 07-22-2009, 09:44 PM

hey.. James here.. Lil about me- I'm a hardgainer standing at 6'2 who started at about 135 lbs... I remember for the longest time it seemed almost as if my body refused to allow me to gain much if any muscle mass whatsoever.. I probably spent about 4-5 months of frivelous weight training every other day trying to build muscle to pretty much no avail.. Eventually I came across the muscle building program at .. spam. com .. which I'm sure many of you also have and had similar success as I've had with it. After being on the program for a little while now I've finally seen massive progress and am currently at 165 lbs .. added 30 lbs of muscle in a relatively short amount of time. But my question is, as I'm sure many of you who are doing Vince's program know.. he doesn't exactly endorse any muscle building supplements and believes they are basically useless and way over-hyped. Now, although I've already had massive success with his program and trust his advice.. I find it hard to believe that there isn't ANY effective supplement out there which can promote significant muscle gain. I know first hand that most are bogus and give fraudulent claims.. but I know there has to be SOMETHING out there which really works. Am I wrong in this assumption? Have any of you experienced significant added results with the help of a muscle growth promoting supplement?? Any advice / comments / suggestions would be much appreciated.. and I'm not interested in any narcotic steroids either.. thanks!

dropshot001 · 07-22-2009, 10:03 PM

creatine is effective, whey protein will help you get more protein into your diet with relative ease and beta alanine has been shown to be effective as well. bcaa's are good too. those are some of the better/more widely accepted products out there.

Jamesxx187 · 07-22-2009, 10:07 PM

yeah.. i keep hearing about creatine.. that's one of the supplements vince says is over-ratted

MilitaryMuscle · 07-23-2009, 12:37 AM

lol narcotic sterioids? i never heard of that one before.......

so you think taking a shot of test will give you muscle gain and get fucked up at the same time.....

Jamesxx187 · 07-23-2009, 12:42 AM

yeah, bad choice of words on the narcotic thing.. but stfu u know what i mean! :-x lol

MilitaryMuscle · 07-23-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jamesxx187

yeah, bad choice of words on the narcotic thing.. but stfu u know what i mean! :-x lol

you shut the fuck up.........

IBT · 07-23-2009, 10:32 AM

If your getting such massive gains why not just keep doing the same thing?

bruno · 07-23-2009, 10:59 AM

Supplements will definitely help to an extent, but honestly, at 6'2" and 165 I agree with whoever told you not to worry about it. Focus on getting stronger and eating a lot of protein and calories and you should be good. If you have a busy schedule, protein powder is a good way to supplement your diet (I like TeamSkip blend from True Protein) but I wouldn't worry about any of the other stuff at this point. Use your money for food.

Glyder · 07-23-2009, 11:46 AM

I like how most of us have used Vinces program and gotten lots of success from it...

cacodaemon · 07-23-2009, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Glyder

I like how most of us have used Vinces program and gotten lots of success from it...

OP seems more like he is doing a plug to me

Knickerbocker24 · 07-23-2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamesxx187

hey.. James here.. Lil about me- I'm a hardgainer standing at 6'2 who started at about 135 lbs... I remember for the longest time it seemed almost as if my body refused to allow me to gain much if any muscle mass whatsoever.. I probably spent about 4-5 months of frivelous weight training every other day trying to build muscle to pretty much no avail.. Eventually I came across the muscle building program at .. buildmuscle.pcti-system. com .. which I'm sure many of you also have and had similar success as I've had with it. After being on the program for a little while now I've finally seen massive progress and am currently at 165 lbs .. added 30 lbs of muscle in a relatively short amount of time. But my question is, as I'm sure many of you who are doing Vince's program know.. he doesn't exactly endorse any muscle building supplements and believes they are basically useless and way over-hyped. Now, although I've already had massive success with his program and trust his advice.. I find it hard to believe that there isn't ANY effective supplement out there which can promote significant muscle gain. I know first hand that most are bogus and give fraudulent claims.. but I know there has to be SOMETHING out there which really works. Am I wrong in this assumption? Have any of you experienced significant added results with the help of a muscle growth promoting supplement?? Any advice / comments / suggestions would be much appreciated.. and I'm not interested in any narcotic steroids either.. thanks!

Supplements are just that...something meant to supplement your diet. A sound diet first and foremost based on whole foods is much more important. Some are effective sure, many overhyped as well, but IMO none promote "significant muscle gain" by themselves.

TERROR · 07-24-2009, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by cacodaemon

OP seems more like he is doing a plug to me

http://www.google.com/search?ie=UTF-...ti-system.+com

**Doggcrapp** · 07-24-2009, 03:45 PM

Holy crap bro you have been busy today

81 sites allready spammed with that cut and paste?

Hows business?

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ev...hl=en&filter=0

doinsumwork · 07-25-2009, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doggcrapp

Holy crap bro you have been busy today

81 sites allready spammed with that cut and paste?

Hows business?

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Ev...hl=en&filter=0

wow...do work kid! haha

07-22-2009, 09:44 PM	#1
Jamesxx187 New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4	Muscle building program which has worked great for me, but?? hey.. James here.. Lil about me- I'm a hardgainer standing at 6'2 who started at about 135 lbs... I remember for the longest time it seemed almost as if my body refused to allow me to gain much if any muscle mass whatsoever.. I probably spent about 4-5 months of frivelous weight training every other day trying to build muscle to pretty much no avail.. Eventually I came across the muscle building program at .. spam. com .. which I'm sure many of you also have and had similar success as I've had with it. After being on the program for a little while now I've finally seen massive progress and am currently at 165 lbs .. added 30 lbs of muscle in a relatively short amount of time. But my question is, as I'm sure many of you who are doing Vince's program know.. he doesn't exactly endorse any muscle building supplements and believes they are basically useless and way over-hyped. Now, although I've already had massive success with his program and trust his advice.. I find it hard to believe that there isn't ANY effective supplement out there which can promote significant muscle gain. I know first hand that most are bogus and give fraudulent claims.. but I know there has to be SOMETHING out there which really works. Am I wrong in this assumption? Have any of you experienced significant added results with the help of a muscle growth promoting supplement?? Any advice / comments / suggestions would be much appreciated.. and I'm not interested in any narcotic steroids either.. thanks! Last edited by homonunculus; 07-24-2009 at 05:25 PM.

07-22-2009, 10:03 PM	#2
dropshot001 Super-heavyweight Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: at the table, gym or elliptical Posts: 4,000	creatine is effective, whey protein will help you get more protein into your diet with relative ease and beta alanine has been shown to be effective as well. bcaa's are good too. those are some of the better/more widely accepted products out there. __________________ Help a poor college student out. Use discount code DKT737 at trueprotein.com for 5% off your entire order, 10% off with orders of 16lbs and up. Go from To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 3 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. to To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 3 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. "Remember there isnt a magically rep range per se....its what you feel comfortable in doing by and large.....its gaining 50-200lbs in that same rep range progressively over months and months of time thats going to do the magic" - Dante "Heavier weights are the only infinite thing you can do in your training."- Dante

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bruno Intense Set of the Month winner April, May, July, August and September 2008 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Portsmouth, NH Posts: 6,638	Supplements will definitely help to an extent, but honestly, at 6'2" and 165 I agree with whoever told you not to worry about it. Focus on getting stronger and eating a lot of protein and calories and you should be good. If you have a busy schedule, protein powder is a good way to supplement your diet (I like TeamSkip blend from True Protein) but I wouldn't worry about any of the other stuff at this point. Use your money for food. __________________ I've got a propostion. When you place your order at trueprotein.com, use BNB559 in the discount code box and save 5% on your order. If you do, I'll be your best friend. Now that's what I'm talking about. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 3 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 3 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

07-23-2009, 11:46 AM	#9
Glyder Super-heavyweight Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Thunder Bay, ON Posts: 3,761	I like how most of us have used Vinces program and gotten lots of success from it... __________________ Lets get serious. Lets get ugly. Beat the logbook - Gollum BEAT YOUR FREAKING LOGBOOK! Thats what you should be worrying about - DoggCrapp and you ask if you need to step up the intensity, a true DC trainee wouldn't need to ask himself that question, he would already be training with full intensity, this isn't a program for "a pretty high intensity", it's for a kick in the balls intensity where you always try to get that extra rep - Equill Save 5% at TrueProtein.com - snc768

07-22-2009, 10:07 PM	#3
Jamesxx187 New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4	yeah.. i keep hearing about creatine.. that's one of the supplements vince says is over-ratted

07-23-2009, 12:42 AM	#5
Jamesxx187 New Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 4	yeah, bad choice of words on the narcotic thing.. but stfu u know what i mean! :-x lol

07-23-2009, 10:32 AM	#7
IBT Bantamweight Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: MN land of the VIKINGS! Posts: 210	If your getting such massive gains why not just keep doing the same thing?

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