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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 16
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Tired of the "fitness" gyms
After seeing the industry change into a 24 hour corporate atmosphere a bunch of the guys I lift with long for a gym where you could
1. bring a gym bag onto the gym floor 2. not have to wait for the 14 year old to get off the bench 3. not worry about making too much noise 4. clank the weights without getting yelled at. 5. not have to fight for space because someone is using a swiss ball in the free weight section to do squats. Basically we all miss the old school gyms... so my brother and I thought why not open our own gym. Anyone ventured into this? Or in the alternative, if you were surrounded by these fu fu gyms, would you jump at the chance to join a gym that didn't offer pilates, group fitness, a climbing wall, out door pool, and child care? |
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Light-heavyweight Member
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Washington, DC
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I do have a question for you. Do you think that just because you have more muscle mass and have been lifting longer that you have more of a right to use the bench over a 14 year old who is just starting out?? Personally I hope to buy or open my own gym. However I would not expect to make any money from it and all I could hope for is that I break even.
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Middleweight Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: OCMD...ever been?
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I would, but as know said, there's not very many people into that sort of thing. My gym is half and half so i'm satisfied with it. It's not the dungeonous gym you're probably looking for, but i carry my gym bag with me the whole time, i grunt and groan when i'm struggling, and have no problem dropping some dumbells from time to time when i feel like i'm in a bad spot, so no complaints here. I'd say look elsewhere for a membership.
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Heavyweight Member
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Climbing the steep mountain to the next level.
Posts: 2,309
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YES! i am tired of the fitness gyms!
Exactly why I am planning on doing the same thing- opening my own! Dude, go for it. If you absolutely LOVE what you do- aka the training, the time you put in/sacrifice, if you enjoy that and you also enjoy advising others on fitness related matters, I would say go for it. Now, obviously you have to take into account finances, but if that's not a problem, go for it. There are definitely not enough good gyms out there. Shit i'm to the point now where they don't even HAVE to be hardcore, they just have to be NORMAL! LOL. I mean like what you said, about not being able to take a gym bag on the floor, or only being allowed to have water and nothing with 'colored liquid' on the floor is getting out of control. Someplace just norma, with all of the gym 'prerequisites' (plenty of benches, incline benches, squat racks, a COUPLE smith machines, a power rack, dumbbells that go heavier than 120, etc.), and no fucking crazy machines that no one is going to use. Good luck bro.
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Join Date: Dec 2006
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To answer your question Knownothing... I don't so much mind the 14 year olds that are in the gym to progress... It's the kids (and sometimes) adults who come to the gym that just take up space. Case in point, yesterday 3 kids show up, spend their time running around the free weight section and really didn't work out. My theory is that there are a bunch of lazy parents who figure they can buy the "family pass" and drop their kids off at the gym and use it as a daycare for a few hours.
So no it's not an issue of "I'm bigger, stay out of my way." In fact, some of the guys who work the hardest are those who aren't necessarily the biggest (boxers, MMA, basketball players). I think I'm just getting old and I miss the days where if you were busting your ass, people left you alone. But if there is anyone on the board who has started a gym and had it fail (or if it was your friend) let me know the horror stories. |
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Bantamweight Member
Join Date: Jun 2008
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A good friend of mine opened his own gym a few years back. It was pretty damn hardcore, he's a world ranked powerlifter. He did a good job though. The front of the gym was nicer with your traditional cardio stuff and machines, but the back was where it was at. Cement floors, no mirrors, a big bowl with chalk and big weights. Unfortunately, the guy he leased the lot from also happened to own the only other gym in town. Needless to say his lease started going up and up until he couldn't afford it. Eventually he foreclosed and the owner of the other gym got all his equipment. Thats life I guess, sometimes nice guys do get the short end.
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Heavyweight Member
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Canberra, Australia
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Deepending on what sort of training you're doing there's no reason you can't shell out a bit of cash and make your very own gym in your garage. When I gave powerlifting stuff a go a few years ago I bought myself a power rack, a good olympic bar, a good flat bench and enough iron to keep me happy.
That little gym was, and still is, open 24/7 to me personally. I get to watch whatever I want while lifting, listen to whatever I want while lifting, and pee in my own toilet if I need to. Hell I can lift in my boxers if i like. Don't forget you were 14yo once yourself. There are far more serious things in life to worry about than that. i would also hazard a guess that for every 10 independent gyms that open with grand ideas, 8 would close within 2 years
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Light-heavyweight Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: New York
Posts: 825
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Having worked in a few gyms, I know that the behind the scenes stuff in these "fu fu gyms" shows that they are even in financial hardship. The only thing that really keeps the average gym alive? The fact that their competitors close and the members from their migrate over and add to the income.
Everyone has pipedreams of starting their own gym, but realistically, it probably isnt the right choice. The only way I could see it working is if you are in a place where you know your "hardcore gym" will fit the demographic (no reason opening a hardcore gym in a town/city where there are 1 million women and 20 serious bodybuilders, poor example but the point is made) and most importantly, you have a facility where the rent is nothing (rare I know) or 'pennies'. And good luck finding that.
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Bantamweight Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Central Florida
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You have to do 1 of 2 things. Find a gym that doesn't not have the trendy name of Golds, lifestyle, bally's etc and find one that also has powerlifters in it. You probably won't find powerlifters in a fitness gym.
Or find out what time of day it is the least busy and try to go then. I had that problem when I went to a fitness gym for a year. If you got there on the wrong day and time you were screwed and had to wait for certain machine and weights. |
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Super-heavyweight Member
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 5,478
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If there are enough weights I dont care. I make my own atmosphere.
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Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,873
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Bingo! and since I workout at 3am....I could give 2 shits less about who or what is going on around me....
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Bantamweight Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Alaska
Posts: 193
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My gym isnt to to bad. They finally got a deadlift platform.DB's up to 150. But they still keep getting the stupid machines. But on a side note look up a gym called Planet fitness. They actually have alarms when you drop you weights. Its called the Lunk Alarm. I have a picture but cant load it for some reason. They just opened on in my town.
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