Phylogenetic analysis of HIV

IronReload 04 · 04-23-2008, 03:57 AM

Supersport, are you still around. I have an article where a doctor infected his girlfriend with an HIV positive blood sample. His girlfriend then tested HIV positive. tests were conducted to link her infection to the blood sample. Other HIV positive people in the same population had blood samples compared to the victim, and no link was found.

This was a major court case in the mid 90's. Test results were used to successfully convict the doctor.

I know your stance on HIV. Perhaps their is no proof, in hard evidence, as to the existance of HIV. However, can you say with 100 percent confidence that denies that "something", is contagious and causing illness.

the article seems sound, and it could be interesting to see how your beliefs, in your mind, would rule out the possability that the tests conducted were legitimate. If you are still around, would you care to see the article?

**homonunculus** · 04-23-2008, 11:46 AM

I'd like to see it if you can post it up here.

-R

IronReload 04 · 04-26-2008, 03:11 PM

sorry......I have been extremely extremely busy last several days after making that thread.......I will try and have it up in a couple hours.

**SuperSport** · 07-30-2008, 12:48 AM

Iron,

There is no contagion in what is called AIDS. AIDS is a lifestyle disease which is not transmissible. Lots of studies are available in which sero discordant couple have unprotected sex for many years and the negative partner does not seroconvert.

The Padian study is such evidence.

I have no beliefs about AIDS or any other scientific matter-reason being is 'belief' isn't very scientific.

All I care about is evidence to support claims. So far the evidence that AIDS is caused by a virus called HIV is that there is none.

i would love to jump on the bandwagon and shout about that AIDS is caused by HIV. But then I would be lying.

AIDS is not caused by HIV. However, HIV is caused by AIDS.

Interesting article here- a young boy gets a blood transfusion from a person deemed HIV positive but yet the boy remains HIV negative-

http://www.proactivehealthnet.com/he...ead.php?t=6147

To better understand the very bizarre world of so called 'HIV' here is an interesting forum with sevaral hundred papers and articles to read-

http://www.proactivehealthnet.com/he...splay.php?f=41

04-23-2008, 03:57 AM	#1
IronReload 04 Heavyweight Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: everywhere and nowhere Posts: 2,087	Phylogenetic analysis of HIV Supersport, are you still around. I have an article where a doctor infected his girlfriend with an HIV positive blood sample. His girlfriend then tested HIV positive. tests were conducted to link her infection to the blood sample. Other HIV positive people in the same population had blood samples compared to the victim, and no link was found. This was a major court case in the mid 90's. Test results were used to successfully convict the doctor. I know your stance on HIV. Perhaps their is no proof, in hard evidence, as to the existance of HIV. However, can you say with 100 percent confidence that denies that "something", is contagious and causing illness. the article seems sound, and it could be interesting to see how your beliefs, in your mind, would rule out the possability that the tests conducted were legitimate. If you are still around, would you care to see the article? __________________ Rapid muscle accumulation mode engaged!!!!!!!!!! "losing builds character, and winning is a reward for that character" IR "I live for anger and frustration, combat is where we'll be"

04-23-2008, 11:46 AM	#2
homonunculus Super Moderator/Roundtable Expert Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 9,399	I'd like to see it if you can post it up here. -R __________________ NOW AVAILABLE: DAVE HENRY - XTREME MEASURES VIDEO!!! <<<WATCH THE TRAILER>>> -------- FOR THE ABSOLUTELY HIGHEST QUALITY SUPPLEMENTS...AT THE ABSOLUTE LOWEST PRICE... www.trueprotein.com

04-26-2008, 03:11 PM	#3
IronReload 04 Heavyweight Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: everywhere and nowhere Posts: 2,087	sorry......I have been extremely extremely busy last several days after making that thread.......I will try and have it up in a couple hours. __________________ Rapid muscle accumulation mode engaged!!!!!!!!!! "losing builds character, and winning is a reward for that character" IR "I live for anger and frustration, combat is where we'll be"

07-30-2008, 12:48 AM	#4
SuperSport Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Carolina Beach, NC Posts: 2,451	Iron, There is no contagion in what is called AIDS. AIDS is a lifestyle disease which is not transmissible. Lots of studies are available in which sero discordant couple have unprotected sex for many years and the negative partner does not seroconvert. The Padian study is such evidence. I have no beliefs about AIDS or any other scientific matter-reason being is 'belief' isn't very scientific. All I care about is evidence to support claims. So far the evidence that AIDS is caused by a virus called HIV is that there is none. i would love to jump on the bandwagon and shout about that AIDS is caused by HIV. But then I would be lying. AIDS is not caused by HIV. However, HIV is caused by AIDS. Interesting article here- a young boy gets a blood transfusion from a person deemed HIV positive but yet the boy remains HIV negative- http://www.proactivehealthnet.com/he...ead.php?t=6147 To better understand the very bizarre world of so called 'HIV' here is an interesting forum with sevaral hundred papers and articles to read- http://www.proactivehealthnet.com/he...splay.php?f=41 __________________ Admin@ http://www.proactivehealthnet.com " We know that to err is human, but the HIV/AIDS hypothesis is one hell of a mistake" Dr. Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize Winner in Chemistry for inventing the Polymerase Chain Reaction "The fact is that you can not start off with bad science and end up with good medicine"

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