Pauli D

At the risk of a good ole' fashioned 'beat-down'...
And this is to anyone...
What are your thoughts on substituting Overhead Presses for Bench Presses in Bill Star's 5 x 5 program?

Also, how about substituting Front Squats for the Back Squats (in the same program) leaving all else unchanged?

Thank you for your thoughts


peace

Sentinel

you're supposed to do OH Presses on Wednesdays.

Front Squats can be done on wednesdays in place of Oly Squats.

Future

Massive G's old 3/1 split:

It was 3 on 1 off push pull legs of course and first day of (push for example) was heavy then the next training day for that bodypart was "light".

As mentioned previously... basically since day one I have always done push pull and legs. The set rep scheme has changed and the amount of rest between work outs but I always settled on the split above.

I started of on 3 on 1 off and a heavy and light day meaning first work out heavy lower rep range and the second one 8-12 reps and using different exercises via a rotation.

Here is a sample-I don't even have to look in my journal I remember it like it was yesterday.

I had been very athletic since the age of 4 playing baseball and football and wrestling but only had a passing fancy with resistance exercises like chins push up etc. I started serious bb'ing at age 18 at around 200 lbs.

Looking back in my journals and memory as I got stronger and stronger I systematically reduced my sets and reps and tried every different program out there..HIT variants, more volume, 2 times a day 3 times a day training etc etc. and settled on a lower set EOD program which I know use to maintain gains, and if ever going back to bulk will use to gain again-some know this as DC training.

Day one legs and calves (the set numbers include warm-ups pyramiding up of course.)

QUADS-
Leg Extensions-3 x 12-8
Squats-4-5 x 10-4
Leg Press-3-4 x 10-6

HAMS-
Lying leg curl-4 x 10-6
Stiff leggeds-3 x 10-6

CALVES-
Standing calf-5 x 12-6

Day 2 Chest Shoulders and Triceps

CHEST
Bench Press-4 x 10-4
Incline Dbell Presses-4 x 10-6
Flat Db flyes-3 x 10-6

SHOULDERS
Presses B/Neck-4 x 10-6
Side Laterals-3-4 x 10-6
Upright rows-3 x 10-6

TRICEPS
Lying Triceps Extenstions-4 x 10-6
Close grip Bench-3 x 10 -6

DAY 3 Back biceps Abs forearms

LATS
Chins-4 x 10-6
BB rows-3 x 10-6
LAT pulldowns-3 x 10-6
Deadlifts-4 x 10-6

BICEPS
BB curls-4 x 10-6
Db Preacher curls-4 x 10-6

FOREARMS
Reverse BB Curls-3 x 10-6
BB Wrist Curls 3 x 10-6

ABS
Incline weighted crunches-4 x 10-6
Lying bench leg raises-3 x 10-6

DAY 3 OFF TRAINING

DAY 4 QUADS, HAMS, CALVES

QUADS
Leg extentions-3-4 x 12-8
Front Squats-4 x 12-8
Hack Squats-4 x 12-8

HAMS
Standing leg curls - 4 x 12-8
Good mornings - 4 x 12-8

CALVES
Seated calf-5 x 15-8

DAY 5 Chest Shoulders Triceps

CHEST
Incline Presses-4 x 12-8
Db bench-4 x 12-8
Incline flyes-3 x 12-8
Dips- 3 x 12-8

SHOULDERS
DB presses-4 x 12-8
BB FRONT Laterals-3 x 12-8
DB bent Laterals- 3x 12-8
BB Shrugs-4 x 12-8

TRICEPS
Pushdowns-3 x 12-8
Dips 3 x 12-8
Seated French presses -3 x 12-8

DAY 6 BACK Biceps abs forearms

V-Bar Chins - 4 x12-8
Db rows one arm- 3 x 10-8
Reverse grip Pull downs- 3 x 10-8
Seated Cable Rows- 3 x10-8

BICEPS
BB Preachers-4 x 12-8
DB Curls-4 x 12-8

FOREARMS
BB Wrist Curls-3 x 12-8
Hammer Curls-3 x 12-8

ABS
Rope Crunches-4 x 12-8
Hanging Leg Raises- 3 x 12-8

DAY OFF

REPEAT cycle

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brandon51287

with the volume training that is outlined on the first page are you sticking to the same 3 exercises per body part for a set amount of time and trying to progressively add weight? or do different exercises at each workout?

Jersey Muscle

Very good read!

jhc_2580

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